MzM

Oud King
I used to give him the benefit of the doubt but not anymore. I have seen way too many instances of behavior like this. Too many stories from other customers and vendors of his poor behavior. The sad part is he will continue this as long as people keep buying from him. I don't care how good his oils are, I just don't find any blessing in them. I used to regret selling the classic Oriscent oils I used to have. I don't have that regret anymore. My only regret is ever giving him any of my money.
So this oil is a legend? If so that's a really good price, people will buy. I mean it's definitely a good technique. @Ouddict where are you going to meet him? Is this at kinamfest?
 

Ouddict

Ouddict Co-Founder & Tech Support
So this oil is a legend? If so that's a really good price, people will buy. I mean it's definitely a good technique. @Ouddict where are you going to meet him? Is this at kinamfest?

There is no prearranged meeting. But I know where he will be.


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Fahad

True Ouddict
I am truly disturbed by this behavior of his. This is totally uncalled for and unacceptable.

I have personally read where he says that, he doesn’t come on this website. I am sorry many of us weren’t born yesterday. If he doesn’t come here and check how would he be releasing a oil every week or every other week.
There is much more to say but I will stop here. Open your eyes people before you regret but will be thrown aside like a piece of trash.

I could just be throwing myself on the rail tracks by saying this as it became quite evident to me very early on that there is no love lost here for Ensar with a few respected forum members having very strong feeling towards him and words to boot which may indeed be justified to some extent but in this instance just wanted to point out that some one else could simply have informed him about it, to give him the benefit of the doubt even if for some there is no inclination to do so.
 

Ouddict

Ouddict Co-Founder & Tech Support
I could just be throwing myself on the rail tracks by saying this as it became quite evident to me very early on that there is no love lost here for Ensar with a few respected forum members having very strong feeling towards him and words to boot which may indeed be justified to some extent but in this instance just wanted to point out that some one else could simply have informed him about it, to give him the benefit of the doubt even if for some there is no inclination to do so.

Probably best to let sleeping dogs lie Fahad. I am able to differentiate between Ensar Oud / Oriscent and Ensar the individual (who has been given the benefit of the doubt a hundred-fold to no avail).

I may not like the conduct of Ensar the individual, but I’m passionate about Oud and I can appreciate them whoever they come from even if it’s Ensar. Unfortunately you are right in saying that some in this forum (and outside) cannot make that distinction.
 

Ouddict

Ouddict Co-Founder & Tech Support
There are oil under 90 us dollar for 2,5 g that my nose say leeeeeeeeeegend with other company.

It’s true. There are some oils I have smelled at around $300-400 that are very good. The Ibn Zamrak from Al Hashimi comes to mind. I’m sure that it could pass as a much more expensive oil and will mature into a magnificent oil. It’s already stunning as it is.
 

Rai Munir

Musk Man
How can an oil be legend?
What I observed when an oil is sold, and no more available is declared legend.
This is something else that no legend becomes unavailable. Each oil has as many lives as a cat does have. Just imagine if Oriscent oils are available everyday, what about the ones declared legends a day, a couple of months, or a year or two before.
Who decide?
In fact, it is not decided, but declared, and declared by the vendor. This is again something else that generally in private legends are sold/ offered by the vendors.
What are the creteria?
As per artisanal Oud vendors, and Oud forum terminology or jargon, legend is a sold oil. This is the only criterion as per the market. Here the oil's qualitative aspect is hundred per cent subjective, not even 99.99 per cent. So, I haven't found any other criterion.

PS: For better understanding, visit the thread Results of Blind Test conducted last year under the supervision of respected powdernose.
 
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Are Ensar's "Oud Legends" just overpriced nonsense? Or are they of such a quality that it is right to command that kind of price range? I am hesitant to try those oils since they come at such a steep cost.
 

zahir

Ouducation Student
Are Ensar's "Oud Legends" just overpriced nonsense? Or are they of such a quality that it is right to command that kind of price range? I am hesitant to try those oils since they come at such a steep cost.
All high quality oils will be pricey. Ensar charges the highest premium. While you may find comparable oils for cheaper elsewhere, remember that no two oils will be identical. So some will be willing to pay the premium price just for that. Others will settle on cheaper (in price) oils that resemble such oils in their smell and experience.

Eg: white kinam by Ensar, Royal Malinau by Taha and Malinau Qi(?) By Marius are all made of wood from the same area. They all have different price tags. Everyone has their own preference as to which of these is the best. And based on that, they will loosen their wallets as well. PS: there are other oils from this very region selling for much cheaper as well.
 
All high quality oils will be pricey. Ensar charges the highest premium. While you may find comparable oils for cheaper elsewhere, remember that no two oils will be identical. So some will be willing to pay the premium price just for that. Others will settle on cheaper (in price) oils that resemble such oils in their smell and experience.

Eg: white kinam by Ensar, Royal Malinau by Taha and Malinau Qi(?) By Marius are all made of wood from the same area. They all have different price tags. Everyone has their own preference as to which of these is the best. And based on that, they will loosen their wallets as well. PS: there are other oils from this very region selling for much cheaper as well.
Thanks. I am not familiar with the higher end offerings of Oud so it's definitely nice to hear that. Where can I find a guide or something like that for the differences in oud oils with respect to region?
 

zahir

Ouducation Student
Familiarize yourself first with what countries does agarwood come from. Then it's going to be a matter of building your knowledge base as to which vendors are offering what oils from those countries and under what name. Then keep an eye on this forum and elsewhere for reviews of oud oils to learn from others. PS: smell is very subjective so what smells like orange sweet to one might smell like candy sweet to another. How well your personal smell correlates to a reviewer, you'd only come to know through experience, i.e. purchasing oils and comparing your impression with the description of the oil from others. And that should give you an idea about who's review do you personally find relatable. On that note, Ensar's description are quite lengthy but he does put in almost everything that most noses would pick up on. He is very good at describing his products and definitely goes overboard in that regard too. On the flip side, Habib's description are short and to the point.
 
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