Bigboy
True Ouddict
Preface : Read the whole thing before you spam out. If your still offended then boo boo. You should not have listened to me whem I told you to read the whole thing
I have had a bug up my ass about this since the beginning of the oud majilis on basenotes and when I myself was involved in the industry. The term "organic " was coined and continues being improperly used to differentiate between wood and oil derived from (typically) less expensive plantation grown wood and its (typically)more expensive wild grown counterpart. No doubt, from a sales perspective "organic " sounds a lot better than plantation or farmed wood....but to me the use of this term leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It looks like useing misleading terminology, actually a phrase that indicates something is the exact opposite of what it really is, is the norm....and i just dont think thats either who our vendors are (I chose to belive in the good in every man and women until they prove otherwise no matter how many times another demonstrated otherwise). I dont belive thats not who we as a community want to represent ourselves to the outside world and new comers.
I just want to make sure those new to oud oil understand that it is not meant as a positive adjective that increases the value of the oil somehow in the same way it does produce .....but rather just a means if saying the wood is plantation wood.
Organic is a VERY INACURATE AND MISLEADING A DESCRIPTION and i will tell you why. MOST wild agarwood is by its very definition wild oft located in remote untouched prestine jungles left untouched by man and thus has not be subjected to being sprayed with nor injected with chemicals to induce resin production and growth. On the contrary "organic " aka plantation oud is by its very nature interfered with by man who will use every means possible up to and including injecting all kinds of chemicals and compounds to induce growth which is TOTALLY CONTRARY to the message delivered to the novice by referring to the oil or wood as organic. It very much is not and is quite the opposite. There are some exceptions and gray areas like wood that has holes drilled in them in the wild or trees that are planted but left to nature to decide if nature will encourage a group of hungry ants to give it the infection it needs to become what we all hope it will. But as a rule of thumb wild ir organic (assuming no one did anything stupid like paint it or glue it together) and plantation is very often not organic at all.
This term has just been used interchangeably with plantation in oud jargon for so long that its doubtful that it will change with out some real effort and cooperation between the vendors and the community. Many vendors to their credit , have begun useing terms like "biodynamic " and "bio oils" to describe their products which i think is Fantastic and and I lead them for the tremendous step in the right direction they have taken.
Please note that I say that not as a dig at vendors , or even the plantation owners themselves, or even the first man to coin the term. I just STRONGLY believe if we want to continue to progress and grow as a family of collectors and purveyors (make no mistake thats what we are because who else understands our insanity to spend more on oil them on our mortgage payment ?) ....then we need to continue to move in the right direction and I personally feel this is tremendously important. Who know. Maybe I'm just a oud nerd with ocd ....but maybe , just maybe this oud nerd wirh ocd is right.
What do you think my brothers and sisters ? Am I overreacting ? Should we just keep describing things with words that oft mean the exact opposite of what they truelly are ? Am I calling it like it is? Agree or disagree?
I have had a bug up my ass about this since the beginning of the oud majilis on basenotes and when I myself was involved in the industry. The term "organic " was coined and continues being improperly used to differentiate between wood and oil derived from (typically) less expensive plantation grown wood and its (typically)more expensive wild grown counterpart. No doubt, from a sales perspective "organic " sounds a lot better than plantation or farmed wood....but to me the use of this term leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It looks like useing misleading terminology, actually a phrase that indicates something is the exact opposite of what it really is, is the norm....and i just dont think thats either who our vendors are (I chose to belive in the good in every man and women until they prove otherwise no matter how many times another demonstrated otherwise). I dont belive thats not who we as a community want to represent ourselves to the outside world and new comers.
I just want to make sure those new to oud oil understand that it is not meant as a positive adjective that increases the value of the oil somehow in the same way it does produce .....but rather just a means if saying the wood is plantation wood.
Organic is a VERY INACURATE AND MISLEADING A DESCRIPTION and i will tell you why. MOST wild agarwood is by its very definition wild oft located in remote untouched prestine jungles left untouched by man and thus has not be subjected to being sprayed with nor injected with chemicals to induce resin production and growth. On the contrary "organic " aka plantation oud is by its very nature interfered with by man who will use every means possible up to and including injecting all kinds of chemicals and compounds to induce growth which is TOTALLY CONTRARY to the message delivered to the novice by referring to the oil or wood as organic. It very much is not and is quite the opposite. There are some exceptions and gray areas like wood that has holes drilled in them in the wild or trees that are planted but left to nature to decide if nature will encourage a group of hungry ants to give it the infection it needs to become what we all hope it will. But as a rule of thumb wild ir organic (assuming no one did anything stupid like paint it or glue it together) and plantation is very often not organic at all.
This term has just been used interchangeably with plantation in oud jargon for so long that its doubtful that it will change with out some real effort and cooperation between the vendors and the community. Many vendors to their credit , have begun useing terms like "biodynamic " and "bio oils" to describe their products which i think is Fantastic and and I lead them for the tremendous step in the right direction they have taken.
Please note that I say that not as a dig at vendors , or even the plantation owners themselves, or even the first man to coin the term. I just STRONGLY believe if we want to continue to progress and grow as a family of collectors and purveyors (make no mistake thats what we are because who else understands our insanity to spend more on oil them on our mortgage payment ?) ....then we need to continue to move in the right direction and I personally feel this is tremendously important. Who know. Maybe I'm just a oud nerd with ocd ....but maybe , just maybe this oud nerd wirh ocd is right.
What do you think my brothers and sisters ? Am I overreacting ? Should we just keep describing things with words that oft mean the exact opposite of what they truelly are ? Am I calling it like it is? Agree or disagree?
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