Burn of the Day

[Zahir]

@PEARL Your point is spot on.

May I ask you this: how do you go about figuring out the correct manner of heating and the amount of wood needed to scent an entire room? Do you have a principle you follow in terms of amount and heating method? Or do you base it off trial and error? Because I have noticed that if I turn up the heat on subitism style burner on my wood, I most definitely start smelling burnt wood smell alongside the agarwood notes. My suspicion is that I just need more wood and use the same lower heat that I use for personal mon-koh style sessions in order to scent the room. Thoughts? Advice? 🙂

 

[Zahir]

@Zahir you ask some interesting questions and this is something I was going to say a while back on the 'oils with kinam/kyara notes thread'. IME kyara/kinam is the highest grade of wood that I know of, grade being the operative word. That does not necessarily mean that kyara/kinam will be the universally held best scent profile, whether in heating wood or in agarwood oils. I've tried several woods that were not kyara/kinam from places like Tripura and Assam, that I preferred over the scent profile of kyara/kinam; likewise I've tried several oils that do not have kyara/kinam notes that I prefer over oils that are said to and do have kyara/kinam notes.

How well agarwood will fill a space is highly dependent on amount and manner heated; I've had sessions with kinam skins where you have to cup your subitism to smell anything and then poof, and I've had sessions with Philippine from Taha or Kalimantan from Al-Hashimi where I could smell the fragrance of agarwood in my house two to three days afterwards. I'm quite sure if I had heated the same amout of kinam skins in the same manner that I would have smelled the fragrance days afterwards as well.

This also reminds me of the advice by KZ on his website that fragrant wood is best bought in person so you may test the aroma before buying. Kyara is just a grade given to agarwood. Whether it smells to your liking or not: well you can only find out by heating it! 😀 Same for oils.

 

[Rai Munir]

@Zahir you ask some interesting questions and this is something I was going to say a while back on the 'oils with kinam/kyara notes thread'. IME kyara/kinam is the highest grade of wood that I know of, grade being the operative word. That does not necessarily mean that kyara/kinam will be the universally held best scent profile, whether in heating wood or in agarwood oils. I've tried several woods that were not kyara/kinam from places like Tripura and Assam, that I preferred over the scent profile of kyara/kinam; likewise I've tried several oils that do not have kyara/kinam notes that I prefer over oils that are said to and do have kyara/kinam notes.

Comprehensive post.

Such coinages are enough to know the reality: Vietnemese Kinam, Brunei Kynam, Malysian Kinam, Papuan Kyara, Burmese Kyara, etc. Then there is only refuge: "It is a profile."

 

[alcolado glacial]

Wild Assamese Agarwood: One of the best pieces of Oudwood I ever tried. Feel like bathing in Oudy drizzling. This wild wood is the wood distilled to have Shah Jahan (IO). I love wood more than the oil.

Till today, I haven't experienced some wood fill the room with aroma the way some attar or Oud oil with high projection does. And this is the beauty of Oudwood as it exudes aroma that is soothing. Even the wood, that is named Kynam, smell the way wood has to smell when heated. But the difference I observe in organic and wild wood is the fragrance the wood exudes without heating. I might be wrong but Kynm is a nice cover to add at least $300 to $500 in the price. Otherwise, its aroma is like a nice perfume.

In my opinion kyara and kinam is more about the psychoactive effects than the scent. Kyara is the only agarwood that has the most deepest spiritual effect of all the agarwoods i tried. that tingly effect on the back of the skull, instant zen focus ability and a certain presence in the air when you burn it. If these effect are not felt, consider yourself lucky not having to pay that extra 500 lol. I do like other agarwood for different effects. for example sinking philipinas by i.o has a very body stoned high effect. Really nice if you want to stretch out on the bed lol. Kyara has a lucid high, while other agarwoods are more narcotic. Indian agarwood has a deeply grounding and soothing narcotic effect on me.It depends what effects you seek. of course they all smell beautiful.

 

[Al Shareef Oudh]

Purple Kinam Powder (Chinese Agarwood Vendor)
I ordered 0.5g of this. Have been trying to study the notes of this powder but it have trouble breaking it down into individual notes.
I used a pinch for my electric burner.
It does NOT fill up the entire room like I expected - but then again I am not sure if I am expecting too much from such a small qty.
I am currently about 40 cm away from my burner and I get whiffs of intoxicating creamy oudiness. It is not heavy nor piercing - my point of reference for Kinam type of aroma is Ensar’s distillations. As it is the most distinct and easily recognizable. And then there are oils from Taha and Mr. Al Shareef that captures the Kyara notes, where it feels comforting and creamy.
The wood ‘scraps’ I m heating - is a hybrid of the two. I do manage to pick up the heady note EO’s style but dialed way back. And the full bodied aroma of Taha and ASO’s take on Kyara, but with a little more.
My only bone (maybe two) to pick, is that the scent is very fleeting, like a phantom. One moment it is so strong and prominent, it suddenly disappears and vanish without a trace, only to come back minutes later to do the haunting and repeating the cycle.
And of course being a burner material - I am not able to wear it out [emoji20]
I can understand why some people prefers oud wood over oud oil, as the scent feels much more complete and elegant. And probably the heating process brings another element and dimension to the whole experience. The warmth somehow just completes the picture. It’s like making a chocolate syrup from scratch - Cocoa Powder, water and Sugar make the majority of the recipe, yet without a pinch of salt and vanilla - the syrup is hard to go from good to great - if only there’s a way to bring this aroma around - maybe like a USB charged necklace/bracelet that allow one to heat the oud wood on the go - like a vaping pen that can be left on... and worn like fashion accessories [emoji851]

My advice would be to contact KyaraZen, purchase a couple grams of Ky Nam from him and heat a bamboo charcoal outside and let is rest for 30 minutes, then bring it in and add on it without doing anything else a piece that is 1.5mm x 5mm or close enough and sit about 500mm away and enjoy. When it has all stopped. Leave the room and come back, and then you will have enjoyed a few different facets of the ky nam experience.

To get a fuller bodied experience you will need to heat larger pieces.

 

[Zahir]

@Zahir I generally fumigate at ~10.7V on my heater, anywhere from .5-1g of wood. Initially it is smokey but once that diffuses the agarwood scent lingers.

Do you the current at this voltage? Afterall, that is what is causing the wire to heat. Voltage just generates the current based on the resistance.

 

[alcolado glacial]

Ceram 97 - E.O

On the lowest . I'm almost licking the heater. woooow. perfumey undetactable oudiness flowers, but my god the effect is there. these older agarwood pieces are very peaceful. If you can get it you won't regret it. all agarwooded out of my mind, but i don't mind. this is lowest setting? where will it go when the boosters go off???

In love with subtle oils? , don't like smoke? Go Ceram before it's gone. Peace out

 

[Rai Munir]

Ceram 97 - E.O

On the lowest . I'm almost licking the heater. woooow. perfumey undetactable oudiness flowers, but my god the effect is there. these older agarwood pieces are very peaceful. If you can get it you won't regret it. all agarwooded out of my mind, but i don't mind. this is lowest setting? where will it go when the boosters go off???

In love with subtle oils? , don't like smoke? Go Ceram before it's gone. Peace out

Now you are looking ecstatic. This is 'your fragrance' then. Otherwise, your sentence structure is not like the one I see in this post. Stay fragrant!

 

[Arsalan]

Sinking Philippine from @Habz786 - seriously enjoying this one...very relaxing aroma...

 

[Joe King]

Finally finished (almost) my wood heater 😀😀😀
so heating some borneo wood from habz

 

[Woodland Note]

Finally finished (almost) my wood heater 😀😀😀
so heating some borneo wood from habz

Absolutely beautiful!

 

[Rai Munir]

Dear Joe, if it is manufactured by you, PLEASE DON'T TRY AT HOME.

 

[alcolado glacial]

Dear Joe, if it is manufactured by you, PLEASE DON'T TRY AT HOME.

but what a fragrant way to go.

 

[Rasoul Salehi]

Where can we purchase Kinam besides EO?

@Zahir
japanese incense houses. try japan icnense. keep an eye on kyara zen's 2088 tea website. some offered time to time. also tony bolton's agar aroma website. not all kinams are the same. and i have to say what i have sourced from kyara zen is best to date. plus the vietnam kinam from ensar is the real deal. the brunei kinam is very nice but is not in the very very top.

 

[Zahir]

@Zahir
japanese incense houses. try japan icnense. keep an eye on kyara zen's 2088 tea website. some offered time to time. also tony bolton's agar aroma website. not all kinams are the same. and i have to say what i have sourced from kyara zen is best to date. plus the vietnam kinam from ensar is the real deal. the brunei kinam is very nice but is not in the very very top.

Thank you for the advice. At japan incense website, there are many retailers and I am unfamiliar with all of them! Do you know which 'brands' offer true Kinam?

Also, is Kinam sold only as kodo chips (for monkoh sessions) or it is not uncommon to come across dust/small shavings of Kinam being sold as Kinam?

 

[Joe King]

Dear Joe, if it is manufactured by you, PLEASE DON'T TRY AT HOME.

😛

 

[Rasoul Salehi]

Thank you for the advice. At japan incense website, there are many retailers and I am unfamiliar with all of them! Do you know which 'brands' offer true Kinam?

Also, is Kinam sold only as kodo chips (for monkoh sessions) or it is not uncommon to come across dust/small shavings of Kinam being sold as Kinam?

they come in squares, shavings, dust... is all about the scent at the end. via japanese regardless of where you buy is all vietnam and green oil kyara. shin kyara is still kyara but younger and not as mind blowing. yamadamatsu is a good place to start. if i were you though i would start with an email to kyara zen.

 

[Zahir]

they come in squares, shavings, dust... is all about the scent at the end. via japanese regardless of where you buy is all vietnam and green oil kyara. shin kyara is still kyara but younger and not as mind blowing. yamadamatsu is a good place to start. if i were you though i would start with an email to kyara zen.

Thanks. So, breaking down wood into smaller pieces such as from chips to shavings to dust does not affect its aroma? I would expect powder/dust to not be as high quality as the wood chips. Am i wrong? Especially in terms of long term storage, I'm afraid that dust and shavings would loose some of their top aromas...

 

[Oudamberlove]

I wish I knew the facts on wood storage also.
Not to mention, woods with a high oil content versus high resin content, which one stores better, and which will be subject to change.

 

[Aleata]

Heating agarwood heals internal organs.
Peace.