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Is this stick better than Seijudo Kyara Enju? 50 sticks cost £3.38k
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Mr.P
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This is excellent - thanks for taking the time to steer me straight. I ordered a couple of the things you recommended, thank you!
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Nijo, Avenue of the Villa. Horin range by Shoyeido. The most inexpensive stick in the range, but such a high quality, extremely floral, sandalwood.
It starts with PIERCING notes of florals, florals that I don't even know what they are, but I can pick out potentially Jasmine and Lavender. The florals are the main notes for the first 2-3 mins, as the stick heats up you get a nice note of a really rich creaminess from the sandalwood, then the florals come back and dominate for a 1 or 2 mins, then the florals start to soften, bringing out the sandalwood, as the florals soften (but are DEFINITELY still present in a big, but good way), you get a nice, subdued woody note, creamy, vanilla-like ice cream milkshake notes, as the stick burns the florals are way in the back but are still very much apparent, along side the creamy, vanilla ice cream milkshake note, you get a nice rich butteriness that is strong, a nice butteriness that is just so relaxing and reassuring, and merges with the creamy note I talk about in such a nice way, they interact perfectly, you also get notes of a sandalwood "citrus" note.
Such an amazing, simple, yet elegant and RICH sandalwood stick that is meant for stick Kodo and heavily listening. As I have said many times before, no sticks from this range are meant to just be sitting in the background (that is why they are thick 2.2inch sticks and you can't get larger sticks, only larger 80 stick boxes with 2.2inch sticks in them), they are for actively listening, intently, "stick Kodo" as I like to call it.
Horin ranges of sticks last me a long time. A 20 box would last me months, because if you use them too much, they DO lose their magic. They are an incense treat!!! And they do give off a decent amount of smoke, even though they are only 2.2inches, they are very thick.
It starts with PIERCING notes of florals, florals that I don't even know what they are, but I can pick out potentially Jasmine and Lavender. The florals are the main notes for the first 2-3 mins, as the stick heats up you get a nice note of a really rich creaminess from the sandalwood, then the florals come back and dominate for a 1 or 2 mins, then the florals start to soften, bringing out the sandalwood, as the florals soften (but are DEFINITELY still present in a big, but good way), you get a nice, subdued woody note, creamy, vanilla-like ice cream milkshake notes, as the stick burns the florals are way in the back but are still very much apparent, along side the creamy, vanilla ice cream milkshake note, you get a nice rich butteriness that is strong, a nice butteriness that is just so relaxing and reassuring, and merges with the creamy note I talk about in such a nice way, they interact perfectly, you also get notes of a sandalwood "citrus" note.
Such an amazing, simple, yet elegant and RICH sandalwood stick that is meant for stick Kodo and heavily listening. As I have said many times before, no sticks from this range are meant to just be sitting in the background (that is why they are thick 2.2inch sticks and you can't get larger sticks, only larger 80 stick boxes with 2.2inch sticks in them), they are for actively listening, intently, "stick Kodo" as I like to call it.
Horin ranges of sticks last me a long time. A 20 box would last me months, because if you use them too much, they DO lose their magic. They are an incense treat!!! And they do give off a decent amount of smoke, even though they are only 2.2inches, they are very thick.
iori
親月
hmm the stick is great but i wouldn't dare give opinion on it now until i lit more
it have great depth with clear Green oil notes, comes hard...
it remind of NK fugaku in one way and remind of nothing in many ways.
best to sample yourself and see...i mean many top kyara sticks but each have ther charm, need to try to see what you prefer best.
You're welcome. Hope you enjoy.
TheOudDood
Not that Brandon
Hong Kong Red soil sticks - straight forward and wonderful 🙂
-Renton-
True Ouddict
Seijudo's Kotonoha Sandalwood. I am pretty sure this is their daily range, as they are extremely inexpensive for 130 sticks (£27.99). I haven't wrote about them, pretty much at all, but I still have a good amount left, but almost done more or less if I was to use them everyday, but they will last a while since I do not.
They use quite a lot of basic Indian Sandalwood in this stick, it is nice. It isn't as fancy as other sandalwood sticks, oils or raw woods in scent, but it has a charm to it that I like (the simplicity of it. that makes me wanna get an Aloeswood from this range when I can as well to see what that is like). It is extremely dry sandalwood, woodiness, with a nice light creamy note with more of a buttery dominant note. It has an "unusual" sandalwood profile, it is not exactly sweet, but not exactly sour or bitter, it is actually more sweet than those two notes, but not exactly super sweet like high grade sandalwood. I was pretty sure that the sapwood of sandalwood wasn't aromatic at all, but some part of me thinks that it might be somewhat aromatic in some sort of way, and Seijudo had upper low grade heartwood with some sap wood on it and ground that up to make this incense, since it is so, peculiar and "different". It has a spicy element to it, that I didn't think Indian sandalwood could have, I thought that s. album was mainly sweet, especially Indian grown,and that Spicatum was the more spicy one.
A good few websites say that they use a high amount of the sandalwood in the sticks and I do believe them, but it just isn't high quality, it is upper low to medium range quality, which still produces a nice stick. Creamy and slightly milky, sometimes being milky to slightly creamy, dry woodiness, nicely buttery, sweet AND spicy (which is, even though the stick isn't "high grade", is something you should check out if you haven't experienced a spicy s. album before).
Overall, an interesting stick. And can be enjoyed with multiple sticks without feeling guilty.
EDIT: One thing I forgot to mention, they are also VERY POTENT in the scent they produce.
They use quite a lot of basic Indian Sandalwood in this stick, it is nice. It isn't as fancy as other sandalwood sticks, oils or raw woods in scent, but it has a charm to it that I like (the simplicity of it. that makes me wanna get an Aloeswood from this range when I can as well to see what that is like). It is extremely dry sandalwood, woodiness, with a nice light creamy note with more of a buttery dominant note. It has an "unusual" sandalwood profile, it is not exactly sweet, but not exactly sour or bitter, it is actually more sweet than those two notes, but not exactly super sweet like high grade sandalwood. I was pretty sure that the sapwood of sandalwood wasn't aromatic at all, but some part of me thinks that it might be somewhat aromatic in some sort of way, and Seijudo had upper low grade heartwood with some sap wood on it and ground that up to make this incense, since it is so, peculiar and "different". It has a spicy element to it, that I didn't think Indian sandalwood could have, I thought that s. album was mainly sweet, especially Indian grown,and that Spicatum was the more spicy one.
A good few websites say that they use a high amount of the sandalwood in the sticks and I do believe them, but it just isn't high quality, it is upper low to medium range quality, which still produces a nice stick. Creamy and slightly milky, sometimes being milky to slightly creamy, dry woodiness, nicely buttery, sweet AND spicy (which is, even though the stick isn't "high grade", is something you should check out if you haven't experienced a spicy s. album before).
Overall, an interesting stick. And can be enjoyed with multiple sticks without feeling guilty.
EDIT: One thing I forgot to mention, they are also VERY POTENT in the scent they produce.
-Renton-
True Ouddict
It has some nice floral notes I think too, with quite a fantastic aloeswood-y note as well, what do you think?
Kolalid
True Ouddict
Yeah I definitely agree with this description. However, so far I’m having a harder time describing stick incense as I feel like I have a lot to learn and test out. Whereas with oud oils I feel I have more understanding of many of the basic profiles and descriptors. But it is definitely floral and Oudy.
I have a Seikado premium sampler that I have been working through and trying to gather my thoughts. I will start taking some notes and taking a deeper dive going forward especially with these nicer sticks.
Mousse de Chene
True Ouddict
Huian Senkoh - Rising Phoenix.
Old world refinement, dignified yet austere. High grade wild Chinese Sinensis; orchid-floral, bitter, peach skin, resinous-sweet. Today, I’m getting a lot of the glorious vanillic bottom note. I’m not much of an incense stick person but these ones leave a wonderful impression every time!
Old world refinement, dignified yet austere. High grade wild Chinese Sinensis; orchid-floral, bitter, peach skin, resinous-sweet. Today, I’m getting a lot of the glorious vanillic bottom note. I’m not much of an incense stick person but these ones leave a wonderful impression every time!
-Renton-
True Ouddict
Started my day off with my new Gyokushodo sticks. "Saidaikoh" or "Seidaikoh". I put 3 on, then some time later, just there, put 4 on. Lovely sticks. They are quite sweet, and mellow. They have Premium Vietnamese aloeswood, mixed with Indian Sandalwood, spikenard and other medicinal herbs that I wont go into, but you can smell the spikenard quite a bit, it is very relaxing.
The notes are mainly of the Vietnamese aloeswood and sandalwood though, with that spikenard and benzoin in the back ground creating a sweetly, gently relaxing note. The aloeswood has a nice red berry scent to it, and a nice earthiness, with a creamy and woody sandalwood, and resinous note of aloeswood. It smells quite similar to soil aloeswood, with the aloeswood giving notes of sweet, creaminess and soil-y butteriness, alongside the sandalwood. The aloeswood is also a bit semi-sweet and kinda sour with a red berry note. It is quite a complex stick, so as I have more experience with it I shall be able to reveal more. This is a stick I will be talking about more than most other sticks I have, as I have went over most of the Japanese sticsk I have left... my collection has dwindled lol. While my oils have kinda went up, over the past couple of months.
The notes are mainly of the Vietnamese aloeswood and sandalwood though, with that spikenard and benzoin in the back ground creating a sweetly, gently relaxing note. The aloeswood has a nice red berry scent to it, and a nice earthiness, with a creamy and woody sandalwood, and resinous note of aloeswood. It smells quite similar to soil aloeswood, with the aloeswood giving notes of sweet, creaminess and soil-y butteriness, alongside the sandalwood. The aloeswood is also a bit semi-sweet and kinda sour with a red berry note. It is quite a complex stick, so as I have more experience with it I shall be able to reveal more. This is a stick I will be talking about more than most other sticks I have, as I have went over most of the Japanese sticsk I have left... my collection has dwindled lol. While my oils have kinda went up, over the past couple of months.
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Tenpyo, Peaceful Sky confuses me more and more. I have a good few sticks left of the old batch version of these, but todays burn, sitting in my bed and wafting the smoke in my face as if I am burning or heating wood, this was way different than previous experiences, but yet familiar, familiar with the spicy and sour notes of Seijudo, Kyara Enju. The feeling at the start was very spicy, resin packed aloeswood, but it wasnt an ordinary spicy feeling, it definitely reminded me of Kyara Enju's spiciness, of course with that aloeswood-y ness in the backdrop, then sour notes, bitter note, and more spicy notes, with some very light, soft mintiness, all reminding me back to the Kyra Enju in the feeling, AND scent.
These are tricky little sticks haha. In the next month when I want to burn another Peaceful Sky, I will definitely test my newer product version and see what the difference truly is.
These are tricky little sticks haha. In the next month when I want to burn another Peaceful Sky, I will definitely test my newer product version and see what the difference truly is.
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Gyokushodo - Saidaikoh. 4 sticks. These sticks are the "Traditional" range from Gyokushodo. This range has 1 sandalwood (that I didn't like in the sample pack) and the rest of the 6 boxes are all amazing and are premium Vietnamese + Sandalwood blends, the higher you go in the range the less spices there are and more aloeswood and sandalwood only there is.
I am very new to these sticks and honestly, even the spices and ingredients in them, such as spikenard (the only experience I have with spikenard is from a stick from Temple of Incense which are very high quality Indian style sticks), and Reiryokoh.
I get notes of the aloeswood which is quite sweet, but also quite sour, fruitiness like red berries, woodiness, and resinous. I also pick up some nice dry sandalwood notes, somewhat creamy, and a bit buttery, very well balanced. It's quite a musky stick as well, which I do believe that's the spikenard, I also get a lot of sweet-woody notes, more so than the average aloeswood/sandalwood/spice blend. And a peculiar note of potentially a... type of curry? Hmm. These sticks are very strange, but absolutely beautifully complex.
As I use these, just like what any Japanese sticks, the scent will grow stronger and stronger to me.
I am very new to these sticks and honestly, even the spices and ingredients in them, such as spikenard (the only experience I have with spikenard is from a stick from Temple of Incense which are very high quality Indian style sticks), and Reiryokoh.
I get notes of the aloeswood which is quite sweet, but also quite sour, fruitiness like red berries, woodiness, and resinous. I also pick up some nice dry sandalwood notes, somewhat creamy, and a bit buttery, very well balanced. It's quite a musky stick as well, which I do believe that's the spikenard, I also get a lot of sweet-woody notes, more so than the average aloeswood/sandalwood/spice blend. And a peculiar note of potentially a... type of curry? Hmm. These sticks are very strange, but absolutely beautifully complex.
As I use these, just like what any Japanese sticks, the scent will grow stronger and stronger to me.
Kolalid
True Ouddict
Seikado Meika Kyara
I just have one stick of this from a sampler pack so these impressions are just based off of half of one stick.
Comparing with Minorien Fu-In Kyara, this one is immediately spicier and woodier. This scent to me feels darker and heavier than the Minorien. It has an almost musky quality to it. While it is more subdued and intermingled with these heavy notes, there is a hint of floral Kyara sweetness that shows itself later on.
Enjoyable and interesting, but I think for me I would rather pair these spicier notes in a sandalwood or even normal aloeswood stick. If it is listed as Kyara I would prefer the cleaner Kyara focused experience, and I feel the Minorien Kyara is a better entryway to that profile at this price point.
I just have one stick of this from a sampler pack so these impressions are just based off of half of one stick.
Comparing with Minorien Fu-In Kyara, this one is immediately spicier and woodier. This scent to me feels darker and heavier than the Minorien. It has an almost musky quality to it. While it is more subdued and intermingled with these heavy notes, there is a hint of floral Kyara sweetness that shows itself later on.
Enjoyable and interesting, but I think for me I would rather pair these spicier notes in a sandalwood or even normal aloeswood stick. If it is listed as Kyara I would prefer the cleaner Kyara focused experience, and I feel the Minorien Kyara is a better entryway to that profile at this price point.
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You are from the states, it says on your profile anyway. I think this stick is mainly an aloeswood stick with a small amount of Kyara in them (like Fu-in) you could, if you have the funds, try these sticks? https://www.japanincense.com/se-0014.html. They are from the same company but it seems to be that Kyara is the focus on these ones more, like Seijudo Kyara Enju 4 or 8 stick box (maximum you can get is 8 I THINK). The 8 stick 4.5inch box costs around £150.
But the link I just gave you is 20 sticks of (I think) a good amount of wild Kyara for $210.
Kolalid
True Ouddict
I have one stick of the gokujo in my sampler. Haven’t gotten to it yet.
-Renton-
True Ouddict
Nice one!!! Tell us how it is.
Kolalid
True Ouddict
Will do!
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