Oh really ? Then I hope you will continue learning here !

What is the indicana ?

Ah..I was about to talk about that but you asked me before that. But perhaps the better place to talk about it, as per the forum's rules, would be Vendors Corner. [You got some idea 😉]

Let me go there and post about it! :Thumbsup:
 
Alaykoum salam and maraban bikoum akhy

There is many (many) hardcore hindi oud lover here (Iam one of them) 😉

I hope I can try your oils one day insha Allah
 
Dear Ouddicts:

i look forward to the education, dissemination of knowledge and helping to enrich each other's lives with all that we bring to share with other like-minded scent fanatics.

sorry for the length of this entry. ill keep future posts shorter.

background info on me:
why share this? b/c i find context is very important.

i am in my mid 30s and work in the wine industry. my background was academics (never did i think i would do anything but work in academia had you asked me when i was doing my honors undergrad). my first real job (outside pizza delivery, working at the university, dog sitting....) was in wine education (teaching wine classes as part of the prestigious WSET) in the earlier part of my professional life, then i was on retail/restaurant side (focus on the art and science of food and wine pairing and helping average consumers to gain appreciation and have a helping hand to navigate the waters). in the past 9 years i work as a supplier. We operate a couple of boutique wineries in the only pocket desert in Canada (yes we don't live in igloos and we actually have the northern most desert- sonoran desert starting in mexico- ending some 40 km into the Canadian border.)

feel free to look up okanagan valley and in particular township of osoyoos and oliver on the map to learn more. is truly a remarkable place.

note: wine, tea, coffee, oud, cheese... they are all the same by the way. they are all gifts from mother nature for us to enjoy and take pleasure from. they all have a world of their own, filled with nuances, subtleties, variations and provide ample amount of intelectual and hedosnitic pleasures. keep their consumption to moderation, be mindful of the dark side to all of them, and you should be set to enjoy the gifts of nature for life.

my aesthetic:
while i refuse to be put in a box that defines me and my interest(s), i have to say i tend to value artisanal products that carry with them a sense of place and time (pure and unadulterated). in the wine world we call this Terroir: wines that cant be from anywhere other than where they were grown. the unique combo of top soil, sub soil, elevation, exposure, lattitue speak louder than the aesthetics of the maker. in fact in my world there is no such thing as a winemaker, only a wine grower. we are fully aware of all the ways we can make a wine taste or smell "better" but we refuse to do so, as that is disrespect to mother nature and will tarnish that sense of place it becomes a commodity, a product without a soul and a mean to an end.

lets take oud for example. while i can appreciate a very complex oud that was "made" that way (thru all sorts of tricks or use of many different techniques) i value more the oud that has been allowed to show its true nature. in other words while i love a good stew, there is something fascinating and beyond hedonistic pleasure in that perfect cut of sashimi. the sashimi chef's job is to not mess up the integrity of the fish, NOT to enhance it, layer it, add his or her own ego to it. so no heavy handed oils for this one, eventhough they may provide ample hedonistics pleasures, they will be devoid of pleasing the left brain.

back to the backgorund:
i was born and raised in a family with huge focus and geekiness in tea (we had plantations and small size tea factory on the caspian sea north of iran) and high art of cusine and all that comes with it (pickling, fermenting and preserving summer and fall crops). i lived in dubai briefly (first exposure to oud but in form of bakhoor and heavily scented barny, floral, super sweet hindi and cambodi oils that is till think were adulterated with rose oil and other essential oils) before my family moved to british Columbia canada when i had just turned 17.

many of my friends are chefs and sommeliers. i also partake in the tea circle (have few grower friends with their holdings in Asia) and actually challenged the TAC tea sommelier exam and passed with distinction.

i got sucked back into oud only a few months ago or so, but kid you not, since then i have at least spent 5-8 hours every (literlaly EVERY) single day and on weekends perhaps 10-12 hours reading, researching, cross-referencing and otherwise jumping both feet int he deep end of this treasured gift to us humans.

i relate to the work, passion and otherwise dedication of WS (kyarazen) very much. i look forward to help contribute to the community and follow in his foot steps. ditto the work of Taha, Ensar and the likes.

i share this b/c i understand for many is difficult to comprehend how a guy in his mid 30s only started oud few months ago can have had such vast of an experience and background. i do not mean to come across as a know it all. in fact i see myself as a student of all of these arts for life. the more i know the less i know. i am a tiny little bug on a windshield.

i have managed to gather samples in form of incense sticks, kneaded incense, oils, chips, bakhoor, etc. across 5-10 different suppliers from all the corners of the earth. i think i probably have north of 60 different oils and probably around half of that in different origin, grade and different supplier's chips/chunks.

i look forward to share my findings and experiences with you all and to learn from you.

here is to less arguments, deceit, and agenda ridden posts and more to raw, sincere passion and knowledge share.

peace and love to all of you

cheers

Rasoul
 
Alaykoum salam and maraban bikoum akhy

There is many (many) hardcore hindi oud lover here (Iam one of them) 😉

Wa'alaykumus salam and thanks for the warm welcome.


I hope I can try your oils one day insha Allah

Let me hasten that day for you. PM me your address and I will send you 0.3 gram free sample of Old Assam.
 
Dear Ouddicts:

i look forward to the education, dissemination of knowledge and helping to enrich each other's lives with all that we bring to share with other like-minded scent fanatics.

sorry for the length of this entry. ill keep future posts shorter.

background info on me:
why share this? b/c i find context is very important.

i am in my mid 30s and work in the wine industry. my background was academics (never did i think i would do anything but work in academia had you asked me when i was doing my honors undergrad). my first real job (outside pizza delivery, working at the university, dog sitting....) was in wine education (teaching wine classes as part of the prestigious WSET) in the earlier part of my professional life, then i was on retail/restaurant side (focus on the art and science of food and wine pairing and helping average consumers to gain appreciation and have a helping hand to navigate the waters). in the past 9 years i work as a supplier. We operate a couple of boutique wineries in the only pocket desert in Canada (yes we don't live in igloos and we actually have the northern most desert- sonoran desert starting in mexico- ending some 40 km into the Canadian border.)

feel free to look up okanagan valley and in particular township of osoyoos and oliver on the map to learn more. is truly a remarkable place.

note: wine, tea, coffee, oud, cheese... they are all the same by the way. they are all gifts from mother nature for us to enjoy and take pleasure from. they all have a world of their own, filled with nuances, subtleties, variations and provide ample amount of intelectual and hedosnitic pleasures. keep their consumption to moderation, be mindful of the dark side to all of them, and you should be set to enjoy the gifts of nature for life.

my aesthetic:
while i refuse to be put in a box that defines me and my interest(s), i have to say i tend to value artisanal products that carry with them a sense of place and time (pure and unadulterated). in the wine world we call this Terroir: wines that cant be from anywhere other than where they were grown. the unique combo of top soil, sub soil, elevation, exposure, lattitue speak louder than the aesthetics of the maker. in fact in my world there is no such thing as a winemaker, only a wine grower. we are fully aware of all the ways we can make a wine taste or smell "better" but we refuse to do so, as that is disrespect to mother nature and will tarnish that sense of place it becomes a commodity, a product without a soul and a mean to an end.

lets take oud for example. while i can appreciate a very complex oud that was "made" that way (thru all sorts of tricks or use of many different techniques) i value more the oud that has been allowed to show its true nature. in other words while i love a good stew, there is something fascinating and beyond hedonistic pleasure in that perfect cut of sashimi. the sashimi chef's job is to not mess up the integrity of the fish, NOT to enhance it, layer it, add his or her own ego to it. so no heavy handed oils for this one, eventhough they may provide ample hedonistics pleasures, they will be devoid of pleasing the left brain.

back to the backgorund:
i was born and raised in a family with huge focus and geekiness in tea (we had plantations and small size tea factory on the caspian sea north of iran) and high art of cusine and all that comes with it (pickling, fermenting and preserving summer and fall crops). i lived in dubai briefly (first exposure to oud but in form of bakhoor and heavily scented barny, floral, super sweet hindi and cambodi oils that is till think were adulterated with rose oil and other essential oils) before my family moved to british Columbia canada when i had just turned 17.

many of my friends are chefs and sommeliers. i also partake in the tea circle (have few grower friends with their holdings in Asia) and actually challenged the TAC tea sommelier exam and passed with distinction.

i got sucked back into oud only a few months ago or so, but kid you not, since then i have at least spent 5-8 hours every (literlaly EVERY) single day and on weekends perhaps 10-12 hours reading, researching, cross-referencing and otherwise jumping both feet int he deep end of this treasured gift to us humans.

i relate to the work, passion and otherwise dedication of WS (kyarazen) very much. i look forward to help contribute to the community and follow in his foot steps. ditto the work of Taha, Ensar and the likes.

i share this b/c i understand for many is difficult to comprehend how a guy in his mid 30s only started oud few months ago can have had such vast of an experience and background. i do not mean to come across as a know it all. in fact i see myself as a student of all of these arts for life. the more i know the less i know. i am a tiny little bug on a windshield.

i have managed to gather samples in form of incense sticks, kneaded incense, oils, chips, bakhoor, etc. across 5-10 different suppliers from all the corners of the earth. i think i probably have north of 60 different oils and probably around half of that in different origin, grade and different supplier's chips/chunks.

i look forward to share my findings and experiences with you all and to learn from you.

here is to less arguments, deceit, and agenda ridden posts and more to raw, sincere passion and knowledge share.

peace and love to all of you

cheers

Rasoul


Welcome to ouddict!! I've read your reviews, amazing job bro.
 
@Rasoul Salehi: Welcome, respected Rasoul. After all, we are all learners. The mystery of fragrances never let one a post doctorate in scents. Mystery would remain a mystery. The rest is just bragging and boasting. I am really pleased to read your views. I am sure, your precious presence on this Forum would prove itself second to none.

I enjoyed your views:

“I value more the oud that has been allowed to show its true nature”, “Note: wine, tea, coffee, oud, cheese... they are all the same by the way. they are all gifts from mother nature for us to enjoy and take pleasure from”, and “the unique combo of top soil, sub soil, elevation, exposure, latitude speak louder than the aesthetics of the maker.”

Well, exactly they are all gifts, but I feel they are no way the same. Gradation is in the scheme of the universe. Just an opining of mine. Moreover, I feel, colour are there, but pellet, brush, colour scheme and most importantly the creative vision of Picasso and Rembrandt speaks louder than the colours. If it were not like that, at least till now, I would have become a great distiller master.

“I have at least spent 5-8 hours every (literally EVERY) single day and on weekends perhaps 10-12 hours reading, researching, cross-referencing and otherwise jumping both feet into he deep end of this treasured gift to us humans.”

Highly appreciable devotion unto fragrance. If there had been a master, just one hour would have imparted the very nucleus of the cosmos of Oud/fragrance. A few of us are blessed with the company of a master. What else remains: books and scattered articles, and then trained olfactory, if that is free from hollow sense of superiority, jealousy or pride. Your commitment shows I will learn a lot from your sharing.

“I relate to the work, passion and otherwise dedication of WS (kyarazen) very much. I look forward to help contribute to the community and follow in his footsteps. ditto the work of Taha, Ensar and the likes.”

Thumb up! You are not a newbie, but a mature wearer. The names you have mentioned are giants in the market. And many more you will come across. Each one has specialty. Differences in oils are there. The masters are different.

“I share this b/c I understand for many is difficult to comprehend how a guy in his mid-30s only started oud few months ago can have had such vast of an experience and background.”

No, I am sure nobody would think so. Nose/ Olfactory is very much with us all, if used and used properly, then fragrance unveils itself. Oud wearers are a lot, but Oud lovers are a few in number, and Oud live-r are very few, and that who himself or herself becomes Oud is one in thousands. I am just a wearer with D Band/Grade. Your first post shows you have learnt a lot. Time is nothing, but what has been learnt.

“I have managed to gather samples in form of incense sticks, kneaded incense, oils, chips, bakhoor, etc. across 5-10 different suppliers from all the corners of the earth. I think I probably have north of 60 different oils and probably around half of that in different origin, grade and different supplier's chips/chunks.”

O my goodness. If it is in the beginning, what would be in the end!!!? By the way, in the end, definitely, you will come to one and only ‘Hindi/ Assamese/ Meghalaya Oud”, or will stick to one, where you will find yourself. At the beginning, all run to acquire all.


“Here is to less arguments, deceit, and agenda ridden posts and more to raw, sincere passion and knowledge share.”

Stay happy forever. Here, for sure, none tries to be another’s master. Sharing is always there, in an amicable way. Opposite ideas are warmly welcomed and read wearing a smile. Yes, Ouddicts have to be like that. Your passion is in your post. Knowledge you will share. This Forum is Home. I can safely vouch for the decency of all the members.

Peace and love to you, my respected and dear Rasoul.

PS: Just read your review. Are you a newbie:Cautious:😱? :thumbsup:
 
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Assalamualaikum,

I am from Malaysia and 30's now. I started to learn and in love with oud a years back when attending some Majlis Ilmu by Habib Ali Zanenal Abidin in Malaysia under Darul Murtadza.

At first, i was given a birthday present from my wife of a set of Bukhoor from a small arab incense shop nearby Kuala Lumpur(last time stay in Kuala Lumpur). I found my self that burning incense is addiction and a better fumigation type.
Keep surrounding comfort better than others. Currently stay in Kedah and miss the Majlis Ilmu with Habib.

One day, i managed to get really close to my beloved teacher Habib Ali Zaenal Abidin. Then i was shock how the oud was burn and the smell still keep in my nose and getting in love with it.

I managed to chat with some person incharge with oudmraket.uk. By google i found this forum interesting to learn more from my brothers here and get along with new friend all over the world. Thank you !

I hope brothers here can teach me more about oud oils and chips.

Reqards,
Umar
 
Welcome brother Umar. You can learn alot here from the members of this forum. Glad you decided to join. We are a friendly bunch 🙂

Any questions don't hesitate to ask however silly they may seem. We were all once in a similar position to you on the start of a very long (and costly) oud journey.
 
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