Burn of the Day

[Oudamberlove]

Since I’m already in an aura of Jasmine from earlier swipes, I thought to pair it up with heating slivers from this piece of Habzoud Sinking Walla Patta.


Yummmmm, I should heat this oudh more often.

 

[-Renton-]

Since I’m already in an aura of Jasmine from earlier swipes, I thought to pair it up with heating slivers from this piece of Habzoud Sinking Walla Patta.
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Yummmmm, I should heat this oudh more often.

I have this Walla Patta, Red Soil. How does it look? I need to shave literally pieces and crumbs off and some slices because it does not like even a touch of high heat so charcoal is a no go, is this normal? I use the powder, crumbs and slices that are all mixed in my ZhengLong heater which is like a ceramic heater thing. 110c it was a pleasant aroma but there was no smoke, is this normal also? Even with no smoke will I eventually start getting different notes at 110-120c if I start smelling the sweet soil aroma? Because I turned the last session up to 170 wayyyy to quickly I think and it didnt smell as good as when it was warming at 110-120c.

 

[The Scent Guru]

@Maunamoku Kedah microbatch, wow! Very different, tangy!

 

[Maunamoku]

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I have this Walla Patta, Red Soil. How does it look? I need to shave literally pieces and crumbs off and some slices because it does not like even a touch of high heat so charcoal is a no go, is this normal? I use the powder, crumbs and slices that are all mixed in my ZhengLong heater which is like a ceramic heater thing. 110c it was a pleasant aroma but there was no smoke, is this normal also? Even with no smoke will I eventually start getting different notes at 110-120c if I start smelling the sweet soil aroma? Because I turned the last session up to 170 wayyyy to quickly I think and it didnt smell as good as when it was warming at 110-120c.

There should not be smoke coming from an electric heater. The intention is to heat the material below the point of combustion. Higher heat brings out the soil aroma, the aroma of clay. You should compare the profile with similar grade wood from the same region, such as the pieces from Adam’s Peak.

 

[Chip Burns]

i believe it have specialty in some of side extra notes and main notes is pristine! the Kodo master i got it from have it associated with plum blossoms smell, and definitely experiencing more pieces give better judgement regarding its main and side notes in general and make its easier to narrow the differences between them, i believe that's tue for each type of wood not only Kyaras.
I'm not pretty good at explaining but I'll try my best.
i probably tested over 40 different green oil Kyaras and while they are all green oil they all differ in ways or another some were special and highly ranked some are average and below average in term of main notes and side ones.
you can see it like how people belong to same lineage or clan and you can't mistake them but there is the differences in ther voice, eyes, hair, nose, lips etc "hope this is good example" lol:/
in Japan there is a ranking system for the woods not only the Kyara the wood fall under one of the 9 ranks depends on its performance and other criteria "honestly i don't know much of it but I'll share what i found".
to note also there is always special pieces and those are mostly ranked under the top rank.
here a picture from Japanese incense book regarding the rankings.

Translation "thanks to Japanese dude in Reddit for helping me out" 🥰

上々: Excellent

匂いが上品で、炷き始めから炷き終りまで同じ匂いで同じ出方をするもの

A fragrance that is elegant, maintaining the same scent and performance from the beginning to the end of burning.



上中: Very Good

最初から匂いが強く出て、良い匂いのまま最後まで同じ程度に匂うもの。

A fragrance that starts strong and maintains a pleasant scent consistently until the end.



上下: Good

匂いは劣っても出方は初めから終りまで平均しているもの。

If the scent is not as superior, the performance remains consistent from the beginning to the end, averaging out the intensity.



中上: Above Average

いい匂いが出ても終り頃には匂いが薄らぐもの。

A fragrance that starts with a pleasant scent but fades towards the end.



中々: Average

少し強いけど、それでもいい匂いが出て、終りに薄らぐもの。

A bit strong initially, but still produces a pleasant scent that fades towards the end.



中下: Below Average

前者より少し品の落ちるもの。

A bit less refined compared to the average.



下上: Poor

匂いは柔らかく出の具合も穏やかですがすぐ消えうせるもの。

The scent is soft, and the intensity is mild, but it quickly fades away.



下中: Very Poor

下上に次ぐ匂いのものですぐ消えるもの。

A fragrance that follows the previous one and fades away quickly.



下々: Terrible

匂いも宜しくなければ出方も不規則なもの。

Fragrance is not pleasing, and the performance is also irregular.

now most of Kyaras i owned or shared with me by friends is named pieces, most of named pieces have specificity however doesn't necessarily its better than unnamed one still usually its better and it got a name for a reason.
regardless not all named pieces are special there is some kind of tradition or something else that make them name pieces of wood.
usually the kodo master do the naming of pieces after experiencing the wood he would classify the wood, rank it, its notes in general and give it waka poem and write etxra details like the date of session and other stuff, but also in japan there is many pieces were named by emperors, family heads and so on.
here example of paper written by master for certain Kyara.

i remember reading that naming wood started in japan in Heian period and its still going to today.
that tradition or whatever its made the famous incense of japan exist, named piece doesn't mean its famous but famous pieces is named piece.
like Ranjatai, or Zenasaka or 61 famous pieces "chosen by founders of shino and oie" 120 pieces and so on.

Love this post I'm going to adopt this for my own rating system.

 

[Rai Munir]

Hindi Agallocha Char and Mysore Sandalwood Root by Kashti: Quality speaks melodiously. Perfect!

 

[Oudamberlove]

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I have this Walla Patta, Red Soil. How does it look? I need to shave literally pieces and crumbs off and some slices because it does not like even a touch of high heat so charcoal is a no go, is this normal? I use the powder, crumbs and slices that are all mixed in my ZhengLong heater which is like a ceramic heater thing. 110c it was a pleasant aroma but there was no smoke, is this normal also? Even with no smoke will I eventually start getting different notes at 110-120c if I start smelling the sweet soil aroma? Because I turned the last session up to 170 wayyyy to quickly I think and it didnt smell as good as when it was warming at 110-120c.

I believe Sam already answered your question about the smoke, but if I may add to that, the different components of agarwood will give off smoke at different temperatures, the oils are first to smoke, then the resin, and lastly wood fibers. To me, the most pleasurable is when the oils smoke, then I don’t mind a little bit of resin smoking, but after a while when the resin is totally cooked I turn the heater off. I don’t like combustion of the wood fibers at all, but if you want to smell like smoke, and not oudh, then I guess that’s okay too🤣
The Walla Patta I heated today is loaded with oils, and smokes at low temps.
Each batch of wood has different ratios of oils and resins, so you should get to know what they’re capable of. Soil woods more so because of their age and condition. I have some soil Vietnamese granules from Daihatsu their costliest offering at Kohgen,

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It’s dark in color (not like the pictures in the listing) and very dry, so it has very little oil, not that much resin either, I can only enjoy them on low for a brief moment, then the session is over, when I heat them on high it’s like coals on a barbeque grill☹️
Bottom line….different woods will give you different performance. I can squeeze a very long session from Maunamoku’s Nha Trang Char, they’re full spectrum. CK can also give you a verrrry long session but at a narrow spectrum.
(BTW, thank you Habz for parting with that nice chunk of Walla, you’re really a Giver👍, and thanks Sam for the Nha Trang Char, I know you’ll probably regret selling them in the future🙏)

 

[-Renton-]

There should not be smoke coming from an electric heater. The intention is to heat the material below the point of combustion. Higher heat brings out the soil aroma, the aroma of clay. You should compare the profile with similar grade wood from the same region, such as the pieces from Adam’s Peak.

Thank you, my friend. I thought this too. Retrying tonight at 110c and staying there, maybe 120c at most.

 

[-Renton-]

There should not be smoke coming from an electric heater. The intention is to heat the material below the point of combustion. Higher heat brings out the soil aroma, the aroma of clay. You should compare the profile with similar grade wood from the same region, such as the pieces from Adam’s Peak.

I have smelled Walla Patta before, and at lower heat, 110-120c, it smelled better than the Walla I tried before, but similar profile, but I thought I would increase it to see if you get more notes lol, silly me. If I just keep it at that low temp will it provide more notes over the period?

 

[Maunamoku]

I have smelled Walla Patta before, and at lower heat, 110-120c, it smelled better than the Walla I tried before, but similar profile, but I thought I would increase it to see if you get more notes lol, silly me. If I just keep it at that low temp will it provide more notes over the period?

You can try starting at the lowest temperature that aroma is noticeable, and then increasing incrementally. When you start noticing toasted or burnt notes, dial it back a few degrees.

While incrementally heating, you can wait for it to stop producing aroma before increasing the temperature again.

Alternatively, you can turn off, or reduce significantly, the heating element when you start to smell aroma, essentially pulsing it with heat.

 

[Maunamoku]

The wood is “Deep Red” Kynam, gifted by the most generous Language Scent. Different than the Red Kynam. The aroma was startling potent at low temperature. It felt like entering a jungle or being in the presence of something alive, before falling into a sea of undulating red fractals.

The tea is “Kiun” by Marukyu Koyamaen, “Middle Path” by Xizihao Daughter Tea, and “Shui Jin Gui” grown in Wuyishan’s Ecological Preserve.

 

[Mousse de Chene]

Shoyeido Bayakudan Mysore Squares. Easily the best Sandalwood I’ve ever heated.
To my nose, the very top note is delicate, powdery, hints of white florals, very ‘perfumey’. It develops into the most refined buttery, soft spicy, warm woody heart notes before the rich oily, sweet vanilla / crème brûlée base notes take centre stage. A third of a square on low heat & it just keeps on giving.

 

[FreeSoul]

Kalimantan, chips from Maunamoku. For me Starts off with a lovely slightly bitter salty leather note that reminds me of I think the oil sumbawa suif from Mesoud. Then progresses to a melting chocolate leather. Tasty!

 

[Habz786]

I believe Sam already answered your question about the smoke, but if I may add to that, the different components of agarwood will give off smoke at different temperatures, the oils are first to smoke, then the resin, and lastly wood fibers. To me, the most pleasurable is when the oils smoke, then I don’t mind a little bit of resin smoking, but after a while when the resin is totally cooked I turn the heater off. I don’t like combustion of the wood fibers at all, but if you want to smell like smoke, and not oudh, then I guess that’s okay too🤣
The Walla Patta I heated today is loaded with oils, and smokes at low temps.
Each batch of wood has different ratios of oils and resins, so you should get to know what they’re capable of. Soil woods more so because of their age and condition. I have some soil Vietnamese granules from Daihatsu their costliest offering at Kohgen,

大発の香木 極上本泥 15g 刻みの通販 - お香専門店香源

大発の香木 極上本泥 15g 刻みの商品ページです。昭和12年創業のお香専門店 香源（こうげん）ではお香、お線香、香木、香炉など各種お香関連商品を扱っております。

www.kohgen.com

It’s dark in color (not like the pictures in the listing) and very dry, so it has very little oil, not that much resin either, I can only enjoy them on low for a brief moment, then the session is over, when I heat them on high it’s like coals on a barbeque grill☹️
Bottom line….different woods will give you different performance. I can squeeze a very long session from Maunamoku’s Nha Trang Char, they’re full spectrum. CK can also give you a verrrry long session but at a narrow spectrum.
(BTW, thank you Habz for parting with that nice chunk of Walla, you’re really a Giver👍, and thanks Sam for the Nha Trang Char, I know you’ll probably regret selling them in the future🙏)

No worries brother that was a special piece, room temp smell was vava voom 😁

 

[Oudamberlove]

Yamadamatsu SS Aloeswood

Today’s piece opened with a nice fruity floral
but more woody than sweet.

 

[iori]

Green oil "Dawn"
Purple oil "Cloudy Waves"

 

[The Scent Guru]

Golden Triangle, floral

 

[TheDarkKnight]

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I have this Walla Patta, Red Soil. How does it look? I need to shave literally pieces and crumbs off and some slices because it does not like even a touch of high heat so charcoal is a no go, is this normal? I use the powder, crumbs and slices that are all mixed in my ZhengLong heater which is like a ceramic heater thing. 110c it was a pleasant aroma but there was no smoke, is this normal also? Even with no smoke will I eventually start getting different notes at 110-120c if I start smelling the sweet soil aroma? Because I turned the last session up to 170 wayyyy to quickly I think and it didnt smell as good as when it was warming at 110-120c.

Is this from Sri Lanka, right? I agree with u about 110 - 120 degrees better than 170. This red soil was used to fake Red soil Fusen because the sweet soil aroma, it's good at about 120 degree. However, the most noticeable difference of this line compared to the red soil Fusen is at temperatures above 170 degrees (about 220 - 230 degrees), red soil of Fusen produces a much better, more stable aroma, with a hint of butter in it.

 

[The Scent Guru]

warming some resins I made from tincturing wood. I think it was Kalimantan. a tiny bit goes a long way.

 

[FreeSoul]

Wild Nha Tinh from Mesoud. Very tasty! Really rich, thick scent coming from this!