-Renton-
True Ouddict
Isn't KaiUnKoh made by Baieido, I am almost 100% that they are. Unless Shoyeido make their own version?
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-Renton-
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Ahh, I get you now. Haha 😀
-Renton-
True Ouddict
Burning some Byakudan (Sandalwood) Kobunboku from Baieido right now. 3 sticks, and they are nearly finished got a couple of more mins (if that) of life on them. Brilliant sandalwood, nice and rich, deeply woody, lactonic and creamy, slightly buttery, with a spiciness that isn't overpowering and still has a soft sweetness to it, nice stick. Every time I put these sticks on, I am reminded you can get nothing better for this price range.
Mr.P
oud<3er
That’s another good one. I really feel like baieido keeps things simple and true to the raw materials for their quality incense line and kind of resisted the temptation to season it with extracts or concentrates, and this makes their incense, especially valuable to me, because it’s kind of like a baseline for what you can expect from wood / herb / resin mixtures.
Both shoyeido and baieido have some interesting chipped mixtures. mix of herbs and woods chopped to 3mm ish pieces
Both shoyeido and baieido have some interesting chipped mixtures. mix of herbs and woods chopped to 3mm ish pieces
-Renton-
True Ouddict
I always wanted to try Shoyeido and Baieido's agarwood slices and granules, since they would work perfectly on coal. I have a contact in Germany for Shoyeido's wood and I can message her when I want to buy, she works for the company in EU. A gram is quite costly though, but the chips are really resinated.
Zazu
True Ouddict
Are those the square very thick sticks?
Ahmaoud
True Ouddict
Yup, sounds about right
-Renton-
True Ouddict
Just burned some Genroku by Shoyeido (Horin range). I haven't burned one of these for a while, the last one I burned after awhile was Tenpyo, I can see the difference between them drastically. Genroku is nice, Tenpyo is of course, my favourite, although Genroku is absolutely fantastic still. Starting off with a earthy, resinous note, then an earthy sweetness, woodiness set in, and I got wafts of woody oudiness, creamy, and it took "note breaks" and smelled like a smokey wood scent, that although not as pleasant as the main notes, was actually still very pleasing and needed. It is a very earthy aloeswood, with some creaminess, soft sweetness, woodiness and woody oudiness with some hints of smoke.
Mr.P
oud<3er
Not very thick, but noticeably thicker than their other sticks.
Olfactory Nomad
Smells so Oud
Yeah nice. I've just found a packet on Ebay for $16 from the UK. Should I get them? I haven't tried anything from this incense house before.
Oudamberlove
Member
Baieido Jinkoh Kokoh old batch
I usually focus on the spices, but today, it’s the jinkoh (agarwood) that hit me first😃
Then I lit a newer batch of Jinkoh Kokoh from 3 years ago….too much benzoin🙁,
I can’t even enjoy it, and needed to cleanse my palate, so I lit some Shoyeido Myo-ho…
that worked…..now I’m good😊
I usually focus on the spices, but today, it’s the jinkoh (agarwood) that hit me first😃
Then I lit a newer batch of Jinkoh Kokoh from 3 years ago….too much benzoin🙁,
I can’t even enjoy it, and needed to cleanse my palate, so I lit some Shoyeido Myo-ho…
that worked…..now I’m good😊
-Renton-
True Ouddict
I am guessing tradition. The Japanese know what they are doing also, so I would trust them. Unless of course you dont like it like Oudamberlove. What does benzoin exactly smell like in the stick? Doesn't it make it sweeter?
Yes, 100% and you will especially like Tokusen Kobunboku by Baieido, they are less on the sandalwood (and a lesser quality) but very heavy on Indonesian aloeswood 😀
Mr.P
oud<3er
Siam benzoin (what i smell in baieido sticks) has an cloyingly sweet scent when burned. Vaguely in the vanilla category but you’d never mistake it for vanilla. If you’re literally working with the fresh material and tincturing it, there is a bit of an animalic “salivary“ aspect (this note shows up in some clover honey and CK oils). It is a natural source of benzoic acid which acts like a preservative
Sumatra benzoin is less cloyingly sweet, more mineral, akin to kunroku resin…
A tiny amount of Siam benzoin has a pretty big effect. Sumatra is milder
Sumatra benzoin is less cloyingly sweet, more mineral, akin to kunroku resin…
A tiny amount of Siam benzoin has a pretty big effect. Sumatra is milder
-Renton-
True Ouddict
Ahh thank you for this info. I know that the camphor tree has a bunch of these type of chemicals like, benzoic acid and borneol.
Oudamberlove
Member
It’s not that I don’t like benzoin, in fact, I like it a lot, but they added too much of it in that later batch Baieido Jinkoh Kokoh, the older batch used it perfectly.
Speaking of batch variation, I’ve purchased many Japanese incense through the years, and found many batch variations, including Shoyeido, Baieido, Kunmeido, Kida Jinseido, Minorien, and Seijudo. But in all fairness, the ingredients themselves are often not identical from batch to batch, so hard to duplicate any recipe exactly.
Speaking of batch variation, I’ve purchased many Japanese incense through the years, and found many batch variations, including Shoyeido, Baieido, Kunmeido, Kida Jinseido, Minorien, and Seijudo. But in all fairness, the ingredients themselves are often not identical from batch to batch, so hard to duplicate any recipe exactly.
Mr.P
oud<3er
Information is appreciated, and your experience makes sense oudamberlove, given natural crop variation.
I have wondered about this but I haven’t bought enough boxes of the same incense pick up on that kind of change.
I agree that benzoin smells wonderful when used with restraint. Absolutely critical stuff for perfume making as well.
I have wondered about this but I haven’t bought enough boxes of the same incense pick up on that kind of change.
I agree that benzoin smells wonderful when used with restraint. Absolutely critical stuff for perfume making as well.
-Renton-
True Ouddict
I was burning Suganda Mantri by Shroff and they last over 1hr, and they were very nice. I used to buy a ton of Indian sticks, but not so much anymore, I typically only burn soft masala sticks since they seem to be the highest of quality, by Shroff anyway. The scent was like a very musky, woodiness, with florals, resin notes that were relaxing. I would recommend these sticks to anyone: https://lotuszenincense.co.uk/colle...uganda-mantri-incense-by-shroff-channabasappa
When I put on another Mysore Stick by Maunamoku I will speak about them then, but all I have to say about them so far, as that they are gorgeous. Really, just amazing Mysore incense, hardly any filler and pure fragrance and even though they are super skinny (but quite large in height) they burn quite a long time, around 45-60 mins. If not longer.
When I put on another Mysore Stick by Maunamoku I will speak about them then, but all I have to say about them so far, as that they are gorgeous. Really, just amazing Mysore incense, hardly any filler and pure fragrance and even though they are super skinny (but quite large in height) they burn quite a long time, around 45-60 mins. If not longer.
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