Taif Rose - Highest Peaks

[Mr.P]

What does a quality Taif go for these days?

 

[Al Shareef Oudh]

What does a quality Taif go for these days?

That is a very good question.

Our classic taifi rose is around the $330 mark.

The highest peak Taif rose which we have released for the first time is $390

The main challenge with taif rose is the quality and to ensure it's purity/genuine.

 

[Mr.P]

That is a very good question.

Our classic taifi rose is around the $330 mark.

The highest peak Taif rose which we have released for the first time is $390

The main challenge with taif rose is the quality and to ensure it's purity/genuine

Got it, seems like a fair price for a rarity like this - costly but not unobtainable. FWIW I say costly in the sense of inherently a high cost material to produce, not in the sense of shockingly priced.


(I recall somebody sharing with me a post about distinguishing between costly and expensive when I was trying to figure out how to describe my own products. They were making the case that the term costly acknowledges that the higher price reflects the reality of the cost of the materials and process; the term "expensive" has more of a sense of being an outlier in terms of high cost and possibly overpriced).

 

[Al Shareef Oudh]

Got it, seems like a fair price for a rarity like this - costly but not unobtainable. FWIW I say costly in the sense of inherently a high cost material to produce, not in the sense of shockingly priced.


(I recall somebody sharing with me a post about distinguishing between costly and expensive when I was trying to figure out how to describe my own products. They were making the case that the term costly acknowledges that the higher price reflects the reality of the cost of the materials and process; the term "expensive" has more of a sense of being an outlier in terms of high cost and possibly overpriced).

Absolutely there is clear difference between costly and expensive.

Taif rose is costly, a man has a finite plot of land that can hold a finite number of rose bushes. Each bush produces a finite number of roses. A well-established fully matured bush can be blossoming with 150-200 roses each morning for the duration of the short season. However the work that goes into maintaining those plants is year around, whilst it blossoms for only a handful of weeks.


Our Taif oil requires 40 thousand roses for the distillation of a single Tola (11.4 grams).

Those roses are hand picked. Hand counted and weighed. The whole distillation process is by hand. A care taken intimate process.

This is why it is costly, as it is time consuming and resource confirming.

 

[Mr.P]

Absolutely there is clear difference between costly and expensive.

Taif rose is costly, a man has a finite plot of land that can hold a finite number of rose bushes. Each bush produces a finite number of roses. A well-established fully matured bush can be blossoming with 150-200 roses each morning for the duration of the short season. However the work that goes into maintaining those plants is year around, whilst it blossoms for only a handful of weeks.


Our Taif oil requires 40 thousand roses for the distillation of a single Tola (11.4 grams).

Those roses are hand picked. Hand counted and weighed. The whole distillation process is by hand. A care taken intimate process.

This is why it is costly, as it is time consuming and resource confirming.

what a world that we can have such things delivered to our doorstep 🙂

 

[Al Shareef Oudh]

what a world that we can have such things delivered to our doorstep 🙂

100% , not that many years ago the outside world had no access to taif rose.

Even now every year it is a challenge to bring the product out due to local demand (there is simply not enough produced) and with the flight restrictions and disruptions.

We were the first to give access to genuine high quality Taif rose. Prior to us there was the ASAQ formulated attar that they called taif rose, which was expensive.

 

[Al Shareef Oudh]

We have less than 10 hours left for the ouddict discount to end. We also have only 5 bottles remaining from what was allocated to the ouddict discount.

At 8pm Australia WST the official launch will happen at full price.

 

[DeadEye]

We have less than 10 hours left for the ouddict discount to end. We also have only 5 bottles remaining from what was allocated to the ouddict discount.

At 8pm Australia WST the official launch will happen at full price.

Assalam aleykoum wa rahmatoullah akhi, can you look my pm that i sent you

 

[Al Shareef Oudh]

For those who may have missed the link

Here is the link

https://www.alshareefoudh.com/product/hp-taif-rose/?v=8bcc25c96aa5

 

[matchasmoke]

I just received the new HP Taif Rose from Al Shareef and in my fragrance cabinet, a Peltier cooler , kept at a solid 18c the oil formed crystals.
It is a wonderful smelling product. More deep and floral unlike another wonderful Taif I have that is more lemony at first annd bright and a tad bit greener in color , that oil congeals at ~8c. The color of the HP is nearly clear.

Maybe Al Shareef can explain this,,, Maybe because it is a complete distilled oil from petals giving way to a higher temperature sensitivity and clearer color?. As opposed to maybe more mechanical for the lower temperature congealed one from another source. ?

Whatever it backstory it is truly delightful.

The middle of the scent evolution, I really enjoy,is as if the rose was in my nose. Pure and natural.

As for the other Taif oil, it is one year old now and I think I will try to preserve the top lemon notes by putting it in some mysore oil. Any recommendations appreciated.

 

[Dazai]

I just received the new HP Taif Rose from Al Shareef and in my fragrance cabinet, a Peltier cooler , kept at a solid 18c the oil formed crystals.
It is a wonderful smelling product. More deep and floral unlike another wonderful Taif I have that is more lemony at first annd bright and a tad bit greener in color , that oil congeals at ~8c. The color of the HP is nearly clear.

Maybe Al Shareef can explain this,,, Maybe because it is a complete distilled oil from petals giving way to a higher temperature sensitivity and clearer color?. As opposed to maybe more mechanical for the lower temperature congealed one from another source. ?

Whatever it backstory it is truly delightful.

The middle of the scent evolution, I really enjoy,is as if the rose was in my nose. Pure and natural.

As for the other Taif oil, it is one year old now and I think I will try to preserve the top lemon notes by putting it in some mysore oil. Any recommendations appreciated.

Can’t wait for mine to come this week!

 

[Mr.P]

I just received the new HP Taif Rose from Al Shareef and in my fragrance cabinet, a Peltier cooler , kept at a solid 18c the oil formed crystals.
It is a wonderful smelling product. More deep and floral unlike another wonderful Taif I have that is more lemony at first annd bright and a tad bit greener in color , that oil congeals at ~8c. The color of the HP is nearly clear.

Maybe Al Shareef can explain this,,, Maybe because it is a complete distilled oil from petals giving way to a higher temperature sensitivity and clearer color?. As opposed to maybe more mechanical for the lower temperature congealed one from another source. ?

Whatever it backstory it is truly delightful.

The middle of the scent evolution, I really enjoy,is as if the rose was in my nose. Pure and natural.

As for the other Taif oil, it is one year old now and I think I will try to preserve the top lemon notes by putting it in some mysore oil. Any recommendations appreciated.

I'm not making any assumptions about your source here but according to monographs on damask rose I have read, an unusually low congealing point is a possible sign of adulteration. 8C is not within the expected range - should fall between 16 and 23.5C according to my sources. For all I know there may be extraction methods that lower the congealing point but I haven't read any reference to this in any technical book on the subject. In this case Al Shareef's oil is the one that is consistent with specs for damask rose otto.

 

[Al Shareef Oudh]

I just received the new HP Taif Rose from Al Shareef and in my fragrance cabinet, a Peltier cooler , kept at a solid 18c the oil formed crystals.
It is a wonderful smelling product. More deep and floral unlike another wonderful Taif I have that is more lemony at first annd bright and a tad bit greener in color , that oil congeals at ~8c. The color of the HP is nearly clear.

Maybe Al Shareef can explain this,,, Maybe because it is a complete distilled oil from petals giving way to a higher temperature sensitivity and clearer color?. As opposed to maybe more mechanical for the lower temperature congealed one from another source. ?

Whatever it backstory it is truly delightful.

The middle of the scent evolution, I really enjoy,is as if the rose was in my nose. Pure and natural.

As for the other Taif oil, it is one year old now and I think I will try to preserve the top lemon notes by putting it in some mysore oil. Any recommendations appreciated.

Love it that you are able to pick the difference between the taif rose from other parts of taif and our Highest Peak Taif Rose. It is indeed more deep on the rose floral aspect and less lemony whilst still retaining the woody dry down notes.

The freezing topic for rose is a good indicator but it should not be the seen as the be all and end all. Unfortunately the little literature out there that mention freezing is based on specific locations or sometimes even fields, such as those from Kazanlak in Bulgaria. They are not based on worldwide analysis or the type of freeze. I have noted over the years that different locations produce different freezing points and even different freeze. The Kashan oils for example freeze in the 20+ Celcuis and they freeze hard, it takes a while to defrost them.

Bulgarian oils upon which the majority of the written material is based on freezes at 16-23 Celcuis, it doesnt freeze hard like Kashan.

Afghani Oils freeze below 15C, again not a hard freeze.

Taif oil from lower valleys freeze below 10 C. Taif Oil from higher altitudes freeze at higher temps.

 

[matchasmoke]

Love it that you are able to pick the difference between the taif rose from other parts of taif and our Highest Peak Taif Rose. It is indeed more deep on the rose floral aspect and less lemony whilst still retaining the woody dry down notes.

The freezing topic for rose is a good indicator but it should not be the seen as the be all and end all. Unfortunately the little literature out there that mention freezing is based on specific locations or sometimes even fields, such as those from Kazanlak in Bulgaria. They are not based on worldwide analysis or the type of freeze. I have noted over the years that different locations produce different freezing points and even different freeze. The Kashan oils for example freeze in the 20+ Celcuis and they freeze hard, it takes a while to defrost them.

Bulgarian oils upon which the majority of the written material is based on freezes at 16-23 Celcuis, it doesnt freeze hard like Kashan.

Afghani Oils freeze below 15C, again not a hard freeze.

Taif oil from lower valleys freeze below 10 C. Taif Oil from higher altitudes freeze at higher temps.

Fascinating information. Arigato.

Yesterday I wore the HP Taif Rose to a Japanese family function, it’s Golden Week here (long holiday) and nobody fussed about strong smells, not even the sister in law 🤣. She will always make a comment if something disturbs her nose. Only grandma mentioned if I had flowers in my pocket.

Smooth and natural, not sharp like the strong lemon forward Taif.
Both Taif oils end at the same woody dry down. Both great but the HP saved me from the wrath of the sister in laws nose. No price can be put on that!!🌹

 

[Al Shareef Oudh]

Fascinating information. Arigato.

Yesterday I wore the HP Taif Rose to a Japanese family function, it’s Golden Week here (long holiday) and nobody fussed about strong smells, not even the sister in law 🤣. She will always make a comment if something disturbs her nose. Only grandma mentioned if I had flowers in my pocket.

Smooth and natural, not sharp like the strong lemon forward Taif.
Both Taif oils end at the same woody dry down. Both great but the HP saved me from the wrath of the sister in laws nose. No price can be put on that!!🌹

Maybe I should add that to the description "sister in law safe" 😂