Attar/Mukhallat of the Day
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Not even close to Peter’s barn without barn thing!
Yeah “botanical musk” whatever this means. I don’t think that plants need perfumy scrotal-like sac to attract their partners 😀
Misleading name…
https://www.etsy.com/listing/239426337/musk-rose-attar-available-in-quarter?ref=shop_home_feat_1
Sorry, but I have to say that posts like this are simply embarrassing. I am not referring to the friendly banter, but to the sarcastic and mocking undertones in describing a vendors product in a couple of the above posts.
A quick Google search of the origin of the term clearly shows that JK has not misled anyone at all. In his own words:
"Musk Rose (Rosa moschata) is an actual flower, but distillations of the flower are quite rare. I wanted to make a beautiful perfume that smelled like a very vivid Musk Rose, but I needed to find the raw materials required to recreate such a rare beauty.
I searched far and wide for materials that could help me recreate the scent of a Musk Rose, and I found them in traditional Indian Attars. An Attar is a traditional Indian fragrance produced by distilling one or multiple materials into Sandalwood, but finding genuine luxurious Attars is difficult because India itself consumes 80%-90% of all Attars produced there. It follows that these Attars are quite rare outside of India.
I began with the finest Rose extract I could find. I wanted my Musk Rose Attar to be more than “just Rose”. I wanted it to be so incredibly juicy that just a smidge of it would transport its wearer to a Sultan's private rose garden! After searching for several years, I finally found the best Rose oil I have ever experienced and chose to make it the core of my composition. Oddly enough, this ingredient was produced in a location which is not normally associated with top quality rose oils...a Russian Centifolia Rose oil.
I required some more Top Notes to flesh out the Rose, and this is where I turned to the rare, genuine Indian Attars. I chose a Champa Attar that just smells amazing: Apple Blossoms on the Top, with a Champa Heart that you can almost take a bite out of, with tenacious animalic Base Notes. Together with the Rose, this Attar creates an almost 3-D feeling of being surrounded by velvety roses.
To this core I added a genuine Indian Hina Musk Attar. This Attar contained over 100 ingredients and took more than three months to distill. Its ingredients included a range of mosses, dozens of woods, spices, and resins, floral extracts of Gulab (Rose), Chemeli (Jasmine), Davana, Kewra and other florals, all distilled into pure Indian Sandalwood. Hina Musk Attar is the most sensuous, all natural botanical musk available, and I am very fortunate to have had the connections to acquire it.
These 3 unusual materials - Russian Rose, Champa Attar and Hina Musk Atar - are laid in a bed of custom-distilled Mysore Sandalwood, with a touch of Cambodian Oud. You have to experience this attar to believe it."
It is clear from this (and a 10 second Google search) that JK has employed commonly used terms and anyone who would take the effort to do basic research would know this. Come on, we can do better than this, its not on to mock a guy who is simply trying to establish himself.
This forum was founded to benefit customers with information and also allow vendors to promote their wares in good faith. Its a symbiotic relationship and this type of uninformed discourse does a lot more harm than good.
Ammar
True Ouddict
My apology to Rising Phoenix if that’s what was his attention behind this attar. I didn’t need to do simple google search because that’s not the description on his Etsy site. @Ouddict It’s not about mocking or personal attack against a vender it’s just about the product itself and its apparent misleading name. Let’s say my style here in case you can't recognise.
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No you’re not history and you’re welcome to stay. In fact I will go further and say that I was really happy that you returned after the last time you left. Just yesterday I was looking at your profile and thinking that it was great to have you on here - and @jalil who left for different reasons.
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Alkhadra
"Master Kafeel" Resident Artisan
Translation:
"Who has a bitter mouth will find bitterness in everything"
Honest mistakes were made.
That’s ok... brother Ammar has a certain style and he has a fiercely independent mind, but as admin I have to manage the posts when things get a bit out of hand. For the record, I personally have zero issue with Ammar.
I think the forum generally runs with minimal intervention, which is how it should be. No one wants to see Ammar go, so I hope he continues (or returns).
Rai Munir
Musk Man
Sandal K Aira (FO): If there is no Mysore Sandal, it is an option, though not alternative to Mysore Sandal in any sense at all. Seems to be immature aroma, coming out of sandal twigs, not from heartwood. @Oudamberlove, respected one, would you please share your experience about this oil? It is good, but I didn't find anything sandal like in there.
Is that Sandal 100k Aira? I have that and I find it to be a lovely sandalwood oil... great in fact.
However, you coming from a region where sandalwood oil is plentiful may have access to even better oils?
Habz786
Resident Artisan & Ouddict Co-Founder
@Rai Munir the details of the Sri Lankan contact on Facebook have been removed from your post. The reason for this is various people have been scammed by him, some whom are on the forum. I hope this wont be the case with yourself but we cant risk promoting him here.
Rai Munir
Musk Man
Yes, Sandal K Aira. I asked for others' response to this oil. Mine is not that much good. Possibly I have sniffed Musk that much. I just swiped a lot. Let's see.
No problem, dearest Habz, no problem at all. You know better about the market. But I am shocked. Totally collapsed.
Habz786
Resident Artisan & Ouddict Co-Founder
@Rai Munir what blends have you tried from trusted vendors?
Ammar
True Ouddict
My apology I overreacted as I was tired from long busy shift at the hospital and I opened the forum to your post first thing when I arrived home. I’ve already edited my post.
Having said that, you need to think twice before posting something that put some accusation towards my integrity and objectivity. Don’t forget I’m probably the first one who defended venders against venders and I’m pretty sure that I’m the first one who started reviewing oud oils objectively dissecting their positive as well negative aspects while the trend was either braising or rarely trashing oils at basenotes for whatever subjective reasons.
No hard feeling…
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No problem... it is just a misunderstanding. Forum rules need to be applied to all, but it’s hard to judge intents and personalities over text at times and misunderstandings occur.
A case in point is a legendary member @Benyben who we even named a whole section after, but who took exception to being moderated and won’t return - by the way @Benyben if you’re reading this, you should come back. Beaucoup de gens te manquent.
Luckily I won’t have to do this for much longer and it’s been a tough 15 months!
Not at all... welcome home 😀
Oudamberlove
Member
The Roots were used according to Feel-Oud.
There is immaturity, but it is the distillation that is young, not the raw materials. It still has some settling/tightening to do.
100k Aira is very pleasant, with an almost perfume vibe, and clean music without stray notes. I am impressed with those roots. In addition to the notes, the high Santalol content is what basically makes it likeable. I prefer the Indonesian Sandalwood over the Sri Lankan Sandalwood, but both cannot beat Indian Sandalwood.
@Ammar
I'm glad you're back
Rai Munir
Musk Man
Parfum de Santal (FO): As the time elapsed, it has developed viscosity and longevity. Less buttery, but more citrusy (orange peel) and woody. I think it is Bangladeshi Sandal.
It is an expedition to wear santalum album, but from different regions adjacent each other- Bangladesh, Ceylon, India ( Mysore).
It is an expedition to wear santalum album, but from different regions adjacent each other- Bangladesh, Ceylon, India ( Mysore).
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