Habzoud sinking Sri Lankan , honestly the best source for Sri Lankan wood!!
I’ve tried so many other sources and only a small batch of wood from @oudbase was this good. The wood I bought from the official Sri Lankan source I don’t even think was Sri Lankan, smelled like cultivated Laos!!!
 
Over past couple weeks, I’ve been heating, (small small slivers on low heat), various types of Kinam/Kyara and Shin Kyara/ Cultivated Kinam. I am starting to really see the difference in them. Recent observations for me are in the one small detail which defines the Kinam from others. Which is the bitter, medicinal note which comes forth from Kyara/Kinam. It seems the Japanese houses have this nailed down, mostly. The sweet/honey/vanilla scent from high grade sinensis wood is so amazing, but it’s not Kinam. I think a lot of high q Viet wood is sold as Kinam all over the place, but when you experience Kinam, it’s like a light bulb turns on. This is Kinam.

As an example, I have 3 woods from Doc Incense I believe could have been sold as Kinam. Sinking Hoi An, Sinking Nha Trang and Sinking Golden Triangle. All 3 are blissful and amazing in their own right and are just amazing on low heat. However (and this is massive respect to Doc on this), the bitter Kyara note just is not present in these woods. It is almost there in the Sinking Hoi An, but it’s more of a “mint” note. Whoever graded these woods was clearly an expert and I’m guessing took some real time to conclude they are not Kinam. The value is almost x3 for Kinam. As for the Kinam I have from Doc, it HAS the note and is next level in its effect. The difference is not something I would have picked up two years ago when I first started. These things take time and experience and I can see how every heating session I learn more and more. Also, I know there’s a lot more to learn. A LOT—possibly a lifetime. An amazing journey to be sure.

I have experience with other Kinam and Kyara as well, just used the Doc Incense woods as a reference for my experience. This isn’t a secret (the bitter/mentholated note), but it is truly a defining characteristic IMO—many others with experience will say the same. I cannot stress enough to people new to this—if you want to educate yourself on wood buy a Rikkoku Gomi set. Even the cheap mini Yamada one will help you.

Sorry such a long post but I wanted to explain this the best I could. Also, to toss a curve ball into this whole thing, this morning and last night it’s been Seram on the burner. The profile of this wood is incredible. I have about 4 different Seram woods in my collection and they are all similar. The Iris note has a wow factor like no other regions. It’s so so good! I’ve said it before, this profile rivals the best Viet wood and isn’t far behind Kinam. I wish I had a Kilogram of high q Seram wood. So much to explore!!
 
Over past couple weeks, I’ve been heating, (small small slivers on low heat), various types of Kinam/Kyara and Shin Kyara/ Cultivated Kinam. I am starting to really see the difference in them. Recent observations for me are in the one small detail which defines the Kinam from others. Which is the bitter, medicinal note which comes forth from Kyara/Kinam. It seems the Japanese houses have this nailed down, mostly. The sweet/honey/vanilla scent from high grade sinensis wood is so amazing, but it’s not Kinam. I think a lot of high q Viet wood is sold as Kinam all over the place, but when you experience Kinam, it’s like a light bulb turns on. This is Kinam.

As an example, I have 3 woods from Doc Incense I believe could have been sold as Kinam. Sinking Hoi An, Sinking Nha Trang and Sinking Golden Triangle. All 3 are blissful and amazing in their own right and are just amazing on low heat. However (and this is massive respect to Doc on this), the bitter Kyara note just is not present in these woods. It is almost there in the Sinking Hoi An, but it’s more of a “mint” note. Whoever graded these woods was clearly an expert and I’m guessing took some real time to conclude they are not Kinam. The value is almost x3 for Kinam. As for the Kinam I have from Doc, it HAS the note and is next level in its effect. The difference is not something I would have picked up two years ago when I first started. These things take time and experience and I can see how every heating session I learn more and more. Also, I know there’s a lot more to learn. A LOT—possibly a lifetime. An amazing journey to be sure.

I have experience with other Kinam and Kyara as well, just used the Doc Incense woods as a reference for my experience. This isn’t a secret (the bitter/mentholated note), but it is truly a defining characteristic IMO—many others with experience will say the same. I cannot stress enough to people new to this—if you want to educate yourself on wood buy a Rikkoku Gomi set. Even the cheap mini Yamada one will help you.

Sorry such a long post but I wanted to explain this the best I could. Also, to toss a curve ball into this whole thing, this morning and last night it’s been Seram on the burner. The profile of this wood is incredible. I have about 4 different Seram woods in my collection and they are all similar. The Iris note has a wow factor like no other regions. It’s so so good! I’ve said it before, this profile rivals the best Viet wood and isn’t far behind Kinam. I wish I had a Kilogram of high q Seram wood. So much to explore!!
Seram is a truly unique profile!

I get what you're saying about the kinam note. Did you try different kinds of kinam? Such as green, white, etc. I believe green is supposed to be the most bitter in the opening. And not all kinams are supposed to have this initial bitter/medicinal note too.
 
Seram is a truly unique profile!

I get what you're saying about the kinam note. Did you try different kinds of kinam? Such as green, white, etc. I believe green is supposed to be the most bitter in the opening. And not all kinams are supposed to have this initial bitter/medicinal note too.
Yes friend, have tried the entire color spectrum. Yellow, purple, red, green, black, white. I doubt I could identify them by color precisely, but that’s a whole separate discussion. It seems to be an area of controversy as well maybe—a lot of these things are it seems. The only defined part for me is the “this is Kyara/Kinam”. While there may be subtle differences in the color spectrum, it’s become clear(er) to me when it’s different from regular high quality wood. It’s an almost indescribable quality of the scent. The line is less blurry for me than in the past. I hope to have a better grasp of it in the future, but I may never stop burning Seram!
 
Over past couple weeks, I’ve been heating, (small small slivers on low heat), various types of Kinam/Kyara and Shin Kyara/ Cultivated Kinam. I am starting to really see the difference in them. Recent observations for me are in the one small detail which defines the Kinam from others. Which is the bitter, medicinal note which comes forth from Kyara/Kinam. It seems the Japanese houses have this nailed down, mostly. The sweet/honey/vanilla scent from high grade sinensis wood is so amazing, but it’s not Kinam. I think a lot of high q Viet wood is sold as Kinam all over the place, but when you experience Kinam, it’s like a light bulb turns on. This is Kinam.

As an example, I have 3 woods from Doc Incense I believe could have been sold as Kinam. Sinking Hoi An, Sinking Nha Trang and Sinking Golden Triangle. All 3 are blissful and amazing in their own right and are just amazing on low heat. However (and this is massive respect to Doc on this), the bitter Kyara note just is not present in these woods. It is almost there in the Sinking Hoi An, but it’s more of a “mint” note. Whoever graded these woods was clearly an expert and I’m guessing took some real time to conclude they are not Kinam. The value is almost x3 for Kinam. As for the Kinam I have from Doc, it HAS the note and is next level in its effect. The difference is not something I would have picked up two years ago when I first started. These things take time and experience and I can see how every heating session I learn more and more. Also, I know there’s a lot more to learn. A LOT—possibly a lifetime. An amazing journey to be sure.

I have experience with other Kinam and Kyara as well, just used the Doc Incense woods as a reference for my experience. This isn’t a secret (the bitter/mentholated note), but it is truly a defining characteristic IMO—many others with experience will say the same. I cannot stress enough to people new to this—if you want to educate yourself on wood buy a Rikkoku Gomi set. Even the cheap mini Yamada one will help you.

Sorry such a long post but I wanted to explain this the best I could. Also, to toss a curve ball into this whole thing, this morning and last night it’s been Seram on the burner. The profile of this wood is incredible. I have about 4 different Seram woods in my collection and they are all similar. The Iris note has a wow factor like no other regions. It’s so so good! I’ve said it before, this profile rivals the best Viet wood and isn’t far behind Kinam. I wish I had a Kilogram of high q Seram wood. So much to explore!!
Where can I buy these Seram nuggets?
 
Shoyeido Kozutsu Mini Agarwood Chip
Mixed lot of profiles, some very nice, but there’s a bit more satisfaction when you know ahead of time what profile you’re going to enjoy, like let’s say from a single large chunk, than a mixed lot. However, at the end of the session my room still smells nice😉
 
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