I will hate myself after it though if I spent nearly 1.5k on 0.2g of oil and I dont like it haha. Could keep it though and leave it (out of many things I want to leave my family in relation to this hobby that could help them with money, like we all should) for my family, so they can sell it for insane prices.
Bruh it's 2,400 for the .2 , the .1 is 1,200. I was wondering why you said .2 lol
 
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I will hate myself after it though if I spent nearly 1.5k on 0.2g of oil and I dont like it haha. Could keep it though and leave it (out of many things I want to leave my family in relation to this hobby that could help them with money, like we all should) for my family, so they can sell it for insane prices.
Lol
İ imagine that u got lotery,and burning big big kinam logs
İ belive u can do it bro 😂
 
Yea I'm aware I just haven't bought a tool yet , I'm still contemplating on which one to get. There's so many types & I've gotten so many recommendations , I know buying a knife should be the last thing to put too much thought into but I always want the best of the best my OCD can't control the urge.

I'm one of the young guys I guess lol I just turned 29 in May , I hear you tho. Grafting is an absolute game changer especially in the years to come , we're just experiencing the very beginning of it , just to think how this young kyara will be 100 years from now.

Thank goodness there are young folks interested in this stuff, and I hope it's clear my comment about youth is in reference solely to not having experienced so much of the "dark ages" (in terms of the market in the United States which is what I have experienced). I think it's awesome that we are now at a point where this is the baseline and quality will be judged relative to something tangible like a young plantation wood, and like you are saying get to reap the benefits of this new ag tech maturing!
 
Mike you were talking about the CK in qirose. You probably know this but one thing that Mesoud mentioned about this oil is that the wood was given a controlled soak pre-distillation, long enough (as I understand it) to maybe be considered leaning towards a traditional or old school style (correct me if I am wrong here).

One oil that I obsess on is Super Hoi An from IO. I love that oil so much that I just don't touch it at all, which is absurd... got to fix that.

What I love about this oil is it clearly has a bit of a funk I assume from soaking... not the lactic acid / yogurt kind but more of a swampy anaerobic type ferment by the scent. It is obvious enough in the top notes to raise eyebrows but somehow it transforms the rest of the experience into this amazingly deep and resonant thick chewy oud vortex.

I feel like if plantation CK could somehow be fermented in that style it would make an amazing oil.

There's something in the smoke that is definitely not in the essential oil or CO2 extract… It's like some molecules need to be cracked or broken before they release their aroma, and I think heat can do that when you burn it or enzymes from whatever bacteria get involved in a soak.

This is a hypothesis - I wonder if I'm even close. I would bet that a lot of the depth we love in a good burn is present in oud smoke but not present in wood or oil. There's a good area for a GCMS/chemical analysis investigation. What shows up in CK smoke that is missing in the wood and various oils and extracts? Likewise for other varieties
 
Thank goodness there are young folks interested in this stuff, and I hope it's clear my comment about youth is in reference solely to not having experienced so much of the "dark ages" (in terms of the market in the United States which is what I have experienced). I think it's awesome that we are now at a point where this is the baseline and quality will be judged relative to something tangible like a young plantation wood, and like you are saying get to reap the benefits of this new ag tech maturing!
I took no offense to the young comment don't worry lol but yea I'm definitely interested !
 
Mike you were talking about the CK in qirose. You probably know this but one thing that Mesoud mentioned about this oil is that the wood was given a controlled soak pre-distillation, long enough (as I understand it) to maybe be considered leaning towards a traditional or old school style (correct me if I am wrong here).

One oil that I obsess on is Super Hoi An from IO. I love that oil so much that I just don't touch it at all, which is absurd... got to fix that.

What I love about this oil is it clearly has a bit of a funk I assume from soaking... not the lactic acid / yogurt kind but more of a swampy anaerobic type ferment by the scent. It is obvious enough in the top notes to raise eyebrows but somehow it transforms the rest of the experience into this amazingly deep and resonant thick chewy oud vortex.

I feel like if plantation CK could somehow be fermented in that style it would make an amazing oil.

There's something in the smoke that is definitely not in the essential oil or CO2 extract… It's like some molecules need to be cracked or broken before they release their aroma, and I think heat can do that when you burn it or enzymes from whatever bacteria get involved in a soak.

This is a hypothesis - I wonder if I'm even close. I would bet that a lot of the depth we love in a good burn is present in oud smoke but not present in wood or oil. There's a good area for a GCMS/chemical analysis investigation. What shows up in CK smoke that is missing in the wood and various oils and extracts? Likewise for other varieties
Na I was talking about burning green CK. I think @Escentually brought up Qirose.

Qirose is 100% new gen imo. I believe Mehmet told me he soaked it in Turkish rose oil & water , it was heavily concentrated with rose oil he mentioned. No ferment/funk whatsoever , the most I get is something medicinal but imo not soak related.
 
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Na I was talking about burning green CK. I think @Escentually brought up Qirose.

Qirose is 100% new gen even with the minimal soak imo. I believe Mehmet told me he soaked it in Turkish rose oil & water , it was heavily concentrated with rose oil he mentioned. No ferment/funk whatsoever , the most I get is something medicinal but imo not soak related.
Yeah gave it a long soak in rose hydrosol but it was cold soaking,so there is no funk or barn notes in this oil
 
Yeah gave it a long soak in rose hydrosol but it was cold soaking,so there is no funk or barn notes in this oil
That's what I remembered. Nice work!
 

Crystal De Luna ETSY - ​

Wild Vintage Red Soil Agarwood Chips | Hoi An | Vietnam​

The worst burn $$similar to the aroma of 100 percent Douglas fir lumber on fire. No scent, not on a heater, not on a coal, not on a subitism, nothing Sam-I-am.

It occurs to me that Evann, might put a little soul into her red soil Hoi-An rip-off. Here, let me help, take some respectable Papua chips, sprinkle some watermelon food flavoring, and shake.


 
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Mokokchung, Nagaland, India. from @RisingPhoenix
this piece isn't fully saturated with resins but the scent is very enjoyable.

saffron, hay, honey note.
 
Wild Shin-Kyara 61kinds named Fuji Smoke by brother kos:

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Mintiness so strong it hit my throat and my body giving me a wakeup call, as the temp went up to the right spot and along the way it had strong notes of mintiness+spiciness hitting my throat and upper stomach in such a pleasing way, eventually on the loudest temp (120-140c) it was full of sour, spicy, minorly bitter (myabe? not 100% sure) and very sweet, with maybe hints of honey and undertones of florals, along with all those tastes came a purple and red berry note. Absolutely fantastic, love this one, first one I tried (since it was the 0.15g I bought), got tons of samples to try, kos is very generous.

The smell has actually perfumed my computer area lol.
 

Crystal De Luna ETSY - ​

Wild Vintage Red Soil Agarwood Chips | Hoi An | Vietnam​

The worst burn $$similar to the aroma of 100 percent Douglas fir lumber on fire. No scent, not on a heater, not on a coal, not on a subitism, nothing Sam-I-am.

It occurs to me that Evann, might put a little soul into her red soil Hoi-An rip-off. Here, let me help, take some respectable Papua chips, sprinkle some watermelon food flavoring, and shake.
This guy/girl w/e he/she is, is known to be a rip off. FUck them
 

Crystal De Luna ETSY - ​

Wild Vintage Red Soil Agarwood Chips | Hoi An | Vietnam​

The worst burn $$similar to the aroma of 100 percent Douglas fir lumber on fire. No scent, not on a heater, not on a coal, not on a subitism, nothing Sam-I-am.

It occurs to me that Evann, might put a little soul into her red soil Hoi-An rip-off. Here, let me help, take some respectable Papua chips, sprinkle some watermelon food flavoring, and shake.
Ya she doesn’t know up from down and sells a lot overpriced junk. Sorry you got ripped off…
 
3 Fat pieces of 0.5g each (roughly) of wild Hindi wood and some Cultivated, they look so similar I forgot which is which, they had the same notes but the wild ones I could tell were smoother thats all. So 1.5g burned on coal for over an hour, bed room has its windows shut so that my bedroom smells of it for when I go to bed. Hindi wood scent is so relaxing.

Notes: Quite woody, smokey, hay notes, with extreme earthiness and jungle notes like in a hot summers day in India, tropical. Dark, dark chocolate, actually I would say pure cocoa, with vanilla, creamy smokey rich pipe tobacco, bitter, and sweet, resinous, very spicy, with a mintiness that hits your throat.

Nice BURN instead of just heating all the time. I am gonna continue to burn agarwood (except Sumatora) on coal until I get another heater for just agarwood, one for kyara and one for agarwood, so no more using Sumatora, but gonna buy another 2 1gram bottles before I buy the heater so I have enough for a good few months/rest of the year.

Pieces;
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