Lido Manzhaya wild foraged incense sticks. These are Tibetan but sourced from Taiwan. They are exceptional - definitely catching Santal, cinnamon, rhodiola, Angelica, agarwood, cardamom. Cozy beautiful incense that reminds me of rainy days in the mountains getting dry by a campfire.
 
Oudique - Tibetan Incense

Lovely light nutmeg spiciness coupled with a light touch of white pepper nuance. My favorite incense that I always like to have a supply of. It has a very delicate woody scent that feels calming and meditative. Beautiful.
 

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been listening to a few kangiitens repeatedly before posting this after receiving my first order

smelling the incense sticks unlit is incredible, the quality of the material is obvious.

but when i light them i find both that they’re so thin i need to light two, but also that they’re more smokey and less fragrant than any of the japanese sticks i light, whether synthetic or natural. i don’t know if it’s some technology they have or it’s a matter of blending but i have been pretty disappointed in the quality of the smoke and its lack of fragrance

i’m wondering if anyone primarily puts these sticks on their subitism burner- it’s not my preference as i’d much rather simply burn stick incense, but i’ve been pretty disappointed across multiple burns and different sticks. they’re just not that fragrant when lit sadly
 
been listening to a few kangiitens repeatedly before posting this after receiving my first order

smelling the incense sticks unlit is incredible, the quality of the material is obvious.

but when i light them i find both that they’re so thin i need to light two, but also that they’re more smokey and less fragrant than any of the japanese sticks i light, whether synthetic or natural. i don’t know if it’s some technology they have or it’s a matter of blending but i have been pretty disappointed in the quality of the smoke and its lack of fragrance

i’m wondering if anyone primarily puts these sticks on their subitism burner- it’s not my preference as i’d much rather simply burn stick incense, but i’ve been pretty disappointed across multiple burns and different sticks. they’re just not that fragrant when lit sadly
That's my assessment as well. I tried many from Kangiiten and all were inferior to the ones I tried from Japanase incense houses like Shoyeido, Shunkohdo and others.
The prices of some of the Japanase incense is better than what Kangiiten is offering compared to quality.
Also I've tried wood from them, same thing not impressed at all, so I stopped following their releases completely.
 
That's my assessment as well. I tried many from Kangiiten and all were inferior to the ones I tried from Japanase incense houses like Shoyeido, Shunkohdo and others.
The prices of some of the Japanase incense is better than what Kangiiten is offering compared to quality.
Also I've tried wood from them, same thing not impressed at all, so I stopped following their releases completely.
i’m glad i’m not alone- everytime i’ve gone up in price with oud vendors, perfumes and pure oud/resins i’ve been able to see a stark difference and feel the value is worth it even if it wasn’t perfectly to my taste and this was the first time i felt like maybe i was just losing my mind across everything i purchased getting the same mediocre result.

real bummer but at least i know where to put my incense money, yamadamatsu here i come
 
i’m glad i’m not alone- everytime i’ve gone up in price with oud vendors, perfumes and pure oud/resins i’ve been able to see a stark difference and feel the value is worth it even if it wasn’t perfectly to my taste and this was the first time i felt like maybe i was just losing my mind across everything i purchased getting the same mediocre result.

real bummer but at least i know where to put my incense money, yamadamatsu here i come
Skillful incense blending may be something that is mastered over generations and requires apprenticeship… it may be impossible to pick up over a few years / decades or even individual lifetimes
 
i’m glad i’m not alone- everytime i’ve gone up in price with oud vendors, perfumes and pure oud/resins i’ve been able to see a stark difference and feel the value is worth it even if it wasn’t perfectly to my taste and this was the first time i felt like maybe i was just losing my mind across everything i purchased getting the same mediocre result.

real bummer but at least i know where to put my incense money, yamadamatsu here i come
What sticks are we talking about specifically? I've never had an issue with my purchases. In fact I often find them too strong.
 
What sticks are we talking about specifically? I've never had an issue with my purchases. In fact I often find them too strong.
wow very interesting.

so far:
interweave, dreams of port moresby, dreams of malinau, dreams of mereauke, several more from the dream series, a few from the prof incense series. the malinau seems the most fragrant of them all but yeah, still not close to a basic japanese stick in my opinion. i would say they are strong (strong smokey smell for such a small stick), just not fragrant compared to the other sticks i burn

but personally ive never had a japanese or chinese style stick feel too strong. tibetan and indian, yes
 
wow very interesting.

so far:
interweave, dreams of port moresby, dreams of malinau, dreams of mereauke, several more from the dream series, a few from the prof incense series. the malinau seems the most fragrant of them all but yeah, still not close to a basic japanese stick in my opinion. i would say they are strong (strong smokey smell for such a small stick), just not fragrant compared to the other sticks i burn

but personally ive never had a japanese or chinese style stick feel too strong. tibetan and indian, yes
Right ok. I'm yet to try Interweave but I was keen to get some. All those others you have mentioned I have. Oddly, it's the Malinau sticks that smell like nothing but burnt wood to me. Very strong. On the sub they're lovely. You have to realise that all those sticks are made from single wood sources. Usually wild. They're not like a typical Japanese senkoh stick such as Shoyeido or Yamadamatsu make because those are blended sticks, often also using eo"s or synthetic materials to make them stronger. You can't make a comparison.
 
Right ok. I'm yet to try Interweave but I was keen to get some. All those others you have mentioned I have. Oddly, it's the Malinau sticks that smell like nothing but burnt wood to me. Very strong. On the sub they're lovely. You have to realise that all those sticks are made from single wood sources. Usually wild. They're not like a typical Japanese senkoh stick such as Shoyeido or Yamadamatsu make because those are blended sticks, often also using eo"s or synthetic materials to make them stronger. You can't make a comparison.
Definitely worth acknowledging that a stick created simply for presenting a particular wood is categorically different from one that uses a spice mix/masala, natural isolates, etc. and other than whether you like them or not it really makes no sense to compare the two because they're different categories of products for sure.

from what I've picked up there's quite a bit of finesse even to making a single note incense stick however. The rate and temperature of combustion can be altered with charcoal for example and as we all have experienced you have to get the temperature right for each particular wood and I'm sure that's true for creating sticks as well (it's not mere combustion, there is a zone adjacent to the area where the ember is burning where volatiles are evaporating without being combusted).

Other variables that will affect the aroma include the grind of wood, the selection / cleaning of the wood, the selection of binder, and the ratio of binder to wood, how long the tama is allowed to sit before extruding, selecting the right stick diameter for the type of burn, etc. this is a lot to master. And I make no claims of having mastered any of this and have no idea how significant each variable is compared to the others - they're just things that I've heard discussed as variables over the years
 
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