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TheOudDood said:
Kinda looks like that stuff that’s def not kyara that someone was trying to offer here and now on etsy. The smell you described is also not kyara-like. Hopefully you didn’t pay too much or order from that guy on etsy.
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Those pieces are from japan, from temples itinerary, paulownia boxes are described with kyara symbol, me personally cant describe what species or grade it is, so provided informations are from this. In japan and in specialized stores, for example Azabukado they are holding many pieces in this kinda variation or look. Many times they are refered as fragrant wood/ rikkoku gomi/ jinko, based on how they look, they are many times not looking as agarwood, so dont know if the name are reffering directly to agarwood or it can be also another species, or this term somehow shifted over time. Price was 8 euros per gram. So would like to find more about it and learn something. I had other “logs” which are not looking as oud and probably have low oil content but have really nice floral aroma at room temperature.
 
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Bonjt said:
Some sinking antique kyara pieces,
not completely sure about the quality,
cause in area of burning chips im completely new, so its hard to describe it and compare it.
At room temperature it emits somehow smoked aroma, it reminds me somehow smoked prosciutto, not completely like that but this is popping in my mind.
When you burnt it, it emits very dry woody antique aroma like old cabinet.

Good way how to test sinking is vacuum sealing, probably there will be little piece of air bubble, depends on shape of chips, but this way chips will not get wet.
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For example Kogado stores are selling very simillar pieces like thise under the name Shin-Nanban or Mananban.
It is one of the Rokukoku gomi in the art of incense and it’s basically means a better agarwood than a average, but it also means low quality agarwood, and it also means a foreign scent.
I also found that its second highest quality agarwood after Kyara.

It is often said among fragrant wood enthusiasts that there is a manaban that smells better than aloeswood, and it is true that there are fragrant woods that have the strength and power of aloeswood.

( so when does it smells better than aloeswood it means is not a aloeswood?)

The strong fragrance of Shinnanban is burned into the mind, both in a good and bad way (an ammonia smell).
The distinctive feature of this wood, which is also used in the eye-catching image, is that it looks pitch black and has no scent at room temperature. It's so black that it's difficult to photograph.

Sometimes the true meaning is lost due to the translations, i read some transcript from kodo ceremony and they were speaking about difference between kyara and shinnanban, so it means shinnanban its not a kyara.

So these pieces maybe depends on the classification of the incense master and he classifies them as kyara?
The visual match of black surface is matching with the another photographs or others chips classified as Mananban.

Dont wanna play a “smart guy”, its all what i found online on japanese shops which had in the past very similar pieces like those and someone classifies it in this way.
Did someone of you heard about this names Shin-Nanban or Mananban and can provide information ifs that aloeswood or different fragrant tree species?
Found Mananban listed as Cambodian, but at the same time listed as Indian from Malabar region, so both cases it will be not Kyara. Would like to know if the japanese naming conventions are based on the scent profile or the actuall origin of tree. One can get lost in this.
Otherwise my scent interpretation is not really good, but afterwards of burning it definitely gives off oud aura, not sure during the process of burning, cause it gives off very dry, mildly sweet aroma. Compared to other chips which are more fruity, didnt get too much scents like this.
 
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Bonjt said:
For example Kogado stores are selling very simillar pieces like thise under the name Shin-Nanban or Mananban.
It is one of the Rokukoku gomi in the art of incense and it’s basically means a better agarwood than a average, but it also means low quality agarwood, and it also means a foreign scent.
I also found that its second highest quality agarwood after Kyara.

It is often said among fragrant wood enthusiasts that there is a manaban that smells better than aloeswood, and it is true that there are fragrant woods that have the strength and power of aloeswood.

( so when does it smells better than aloeswood it means is not a aloeswood?)

The strong fragrance of Shinnanban is burned into the mind, both in a good and bad way (an ammonia smell).
The distinctive feature of this wood, which is also used in the eye-catching image, is that it looks pitch black and has no scent at room temperature. It's so black that it's difficult to photograph.

Sometimes the true meaning is lost due to the translations, i read some transcript from kodo ceremony and they were speaking about difference between kyara and shinnanban, so it means shinnanban its not a kyara.

So these pieces maybe depends on the classification of the incense master and he classifies them as kyara?
The visual match of black surface is matching with the another photographs or others chips classified as Mananban.

Dont wanna play a “smart guy”, its all what i found online on japanese shops which had in the past very similar pieces like those and someone classifies it in this way.
Did someone of you heard about this names Shin-Nanban or Mananban and can provide information ifs that aloeswood or different fragrant tree species?
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you know your stuff!
 
Joe said:
Oh, are you supposed to crumble it? I've just been throwing a chunk on the mica with no luck.
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This is the Yamadamatsu Kioka burner. It doesn't really get hot enough to properly burn chunks. It's more for kodo style heating small amounts of very high quality wood. Crumbles, dust, slivers, and small thin pieces. I used a shaving knife here to chip off a tiny amount.

Some woods do better as chunks on subitism or even charcoal where you can get much higher temps.
 
Thin flakes or slivers/ splinters work well
 
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