Oud Reviews

[peter4ptv]

Pearl and AlSahreef, you take it the hindi discussion to all different levels now.
I ask not about barn and hindis in general.
It was about this
<<<<<<<<< Before vintage Indian oud as we know it, there were truly vintage Indian ouds. Gold, yellow, and green oils with sparkling sweet scent profiles. Those oils were gently distilled in fully-copper apparatus, and the wood was never soaked (thus never fermented = barnyard) before distillation. My distiller explained this is how all Indian oud oils used to be back in the day...>>>>>>>>>>>>>
For me this somehow did not sound it right, well I am now sure by some parts of the discussion thank to all participants for the info and by documents I found and post it.
That the above can not be the truth, there have never been any
truly vintage Indian ouds. Gold, yellow, and green oils with sparkling sweet scent profiles. Those oils were gently distilled in fully-copper apparatus, and the wood was never soaked (thus never fermented = barnyard) before distillation.
Thank you.

 

[peter4ptv]

In so much that people from the entire subcontinent including Pakistan, Indian, Bangladesh have a propensity to be liberal with the truth than yes.

A logically correct statement would be not all Indians are scamsters but most tele scamsters are from India. population and acess to the English language act as facilitating factors but some might say that a cultural propensity to polish scamming and corruption as being clever and street wise also plays a significant part.

Well , I am seeing it as an American guy is making fun of the talk of a person with a Hindi background, maybe i am stupid or something but I found this very offensive when was discus it hindi oud history in general.

 

[Habz786]

Please stick to Oud reviews which is what this section of the forum is for, if this continues ALL posts which are not related to Oud reviews will be removed. Please use the forum to start specific topics which are not related to reviews. Offensive posts have been removed, Can we all please get on now like one big happy Oud family despite our differences of opinion 🙂

Thank You

 

[peter4ptv]

It's obvious that as perception of Oudiness and Barnyardiness varies from Ouddict to Ouddict, so does the qualifications of what determines a Classic Al Hind. A true Ouddict is into Oud, history is for historians 😎

I just tried a full swipe of Hudhayl the oil.
Phase 1, chocolate and cigar, incense and resin, musk and old wood, oudy and syrup, peppery and dried fruit. Phase 2, a brightness blooms with more incense and a delicious barn, then for a while it mimics a Cambodi, the dried fruits start to hydrate and share their aroma, there's coffee brewing in the backroom on a tabletop of polished antique wood. Phase 3, more resin, more barnyard, more oudiness, more spice. The brightness has turned into darkness.
This oil has an aged vibe already but it will surely age more. Not very barny, not a beast, you have to come in close to enjoy the show. It's hard to stop sniffing this one.

Oudamber, very well done review perfect, I am sure I will use it as a reference, for my first snuffs when I get my Hudhayl oil.

 

[Habz786]

@Habz786 Although some of the recent discussion on this particular review thread was not a review of any oil in general, it was genial and respectful in its manner. That is, with the exception of the nationalistic, racist comments by Mr B, which should be removed. I ask respectfully that those other informative, thoughtful post, beginning with @firdaous post #250 not be completely removed from the board in general, but rather moved to the general discussion topic at most. As with much of discussion the participants often go off onto other things, but we were discussing oud, and I myself did enjoy the discourse, as I am sure the other respectful commenters did as well.

I have left those posts there as they are informative PEARL sorry i should have made it clear "from now on" posts which are not reviews or linked to a discussion on reviews will be removed, Thank you for your advice.

 

[Bengal Roots]

@Habz786 mucho gracias!

 

[jalil]

Come back to review lol

IO Semkhor (new school hindi hihi)

I was in my car driving back from the masjid and a sweet (ice)creamy milk smooth scent come to my nose...

...it is semkhor drydown mach'ALLAH

 

[peter4ptv]

Ha Jalil, isn't this from imperial? Not EO

 

[jalil]

Right lol I edit 😉

 

[Ouddict]

Thank you Habz786 for your actions. I am away at the moment so was unable to address the recents posts, but I want to stress that ALL Oud vendors and their customers must be respected on this forum. That does not mean that you cannot state your opinion if something is not to your liking in terms of quality, price or value - but even then, only if you have bought or sampled the product in question. However, ANY personal attacks or accusations as to the motives or character of any people are not accepted. Note that the forum has adverts from most of the leading Oud vendors as we are an OPEN and INCLUSIVE platform.

This is not BN, so the forum will not be shut down ever, but instead, only two warnings will be given by PM and on the third occasion, the user and IP will be banned for a month. Furthe repeats may lead to permanent exclusion from the forum and believe me, with what we have planned, no Oud lover will want to miss out.

On a positive note, I want to thank all the users for their presence in making this the best and fastest growing Oud community and lets make this a place where everyone - vendors and customers - feel welcome and included.

 

[Oudamberlove]

So I suggest that before we post on this forum, take a big swipe of some good Oudh, relax, put your mind in a pleasant state, then post😉
As pioneering members, we should help set the tone to make this the best Oudh resource available. I am thankful that we already have among our membership those who possess knowledge that spans several generations, and those who try to expand the boundaries of Oudh knowledge 😀

 

[Ouddict]

Thanks Oudamberlove...

 

[Al Shareef Oudh]

I found some of the insight very informative.

As part of the collaboration we did with @Kyarazen, I have been reviewing the impact different traditions have on scents. The oriental approach is to fine tune and listen to the silent under currents that exist in scent, profiles that would otherwise go un-noticed. To oriental master if you offered them the ability to pause time whilst they are listen, there would be no happier individual. This fingerprint adds a very luring dimension to perfumery when combined with other traditions.

Interesting thing to keep an eye on; raw materials from one region being crafted into oils using the methods of a totally different tradition and region.

 

[bhanny]

So I've chosen not to post here because of one particular posters incessant obsession with bashing Ensar, which is still roaring today I see. I appreciate admin trying to clean it up a bit. Its too bad adults can't behave better. Forgive these last few sentences, I have a hard time with people smearing the name of people I personally respect. Anyways..

The reason I came back today was to give props to a great oil by Al Shareef Oud, Hudhayl. He kindly reached out to me to recommend it and I'm so grateful he did. It is truly a wonderful Hindi, exactly as I like them. Heavily resinated, yet with all the lovely nuances and notes expected in a nice Hindi oil. It starts with beautiful incense, resins, mild spices and peppery wood. Then a perfectly right amount of barn creeps in, never too heavy, it just whispers loud enough to know its there. The drydown is chock full of sweet resins and wood.

Well done, great oil. Definitely bottle worthy.

 

[Ouddict]

So I've chosen not to post here because of one particular posters incessant obsession with bashing Ensar, which is still roaring today I see. I appreciate admin trying to clean it up a bit. Its too bad adults can't behave better. Forgive these last few sentences, I have a hard time with people smearing the name of people I personally respect. Anyways..

The reason I came back today was to give props to a great oil by Al Shareef Oud, Hudhayl. He kindly reached out to me to recommend it and I'm so grateful he did. It is truly a wonderful Hindi, exactly as I like them. Heavily resinated, yet with all the lovely nuances and notes expected in a nice Hindi oil. It starts with beautiful incense, resins, mild spices and peppery wood. Then a perfectly right amount of barn creeps in, never too heavy, it just whispers loud enough to know its there. The drydown is chock full of sweet resins and wood.

Well done, great oil. Definitely bottle worthy.

Hi Bhanny, Welcome to the forum (again!). We would appreciate the presence of people like yourself on this forum as we have absolutely no axe to grind with ANY vendor - you must have noticed the ads that we carry for many of them including Ensar Oud. If anyone sees anything that violates the forum rules on insulting or slandering others (vendors or not), then please let me know asap. We have a zero tolerance stance for this kind of behaviour and if we need to permanently ban a very very small minority of users who continue to violate the rules, we will do so without hesitation - initial warnings have already been sent.

Having said that, customers are welcome to discuss and praise or criticize Ouds that they have personally bought or samples of, as this is educational and informative for the rest of us. It is a bit of a balancing act as Oud is something that can trigger passions and opinions like no other scent, partly due to the money that Oud lovers put into purchasing their small 3g bottles of liquid magic (or not in some cases). Some vendors might feel that customers do not appreciate the hard work, knowhow, effort, risk and cost that goes into obtaining their products, but that's just the way it is and civil discussion without insult or maligning the intentions of either side is accepted here. So please, continue to visit and if you have any suggestions on how to improve our forum I would personally love to hear them. 🙂

 

[bhanny]

Hi Bhanny, Welcome to the forum (again!). We would appreciate the presence of people like yourself on this forum as we have absolutely no axe to grind with ANY vendor - you must have noticed the ads that we carry for many of them including Ensar Oud. If anyone sees anything that violates the forum rules on insulting or slandering others (vendors or not), then please let me know asap. We have a zero tolerance stance for this kind of behaviour and if we need to permanently ban a very very small minority of users who continue to violate the rules, we will do so without hesitation - initial warnings have already been sent.

Having said that, customers are welcome to discuss and praise or criticize Ouds that they have personally bought or samples of, as this is educational and informative for the rest of us. It is a bit of a balancing act as Oud is something that can trigger passions and opinions like no other scent, partly due to the money that Oud lovers put into purchasing their small 3g bottles of liquid magic (or not in some cases). Some vendors might feel that customers do not appreciate the hard work, knowhow, effort, risk and cost that goes into obtaining their products, but that's just the way it is and civil discussion without insult or maligning the intentions of either side is accepted here. So please, continue to visit and if you have any suggestions on how to improve our forum I would personally love to hear them. 🙂

Will do, and you've done great work on this forum! And I will NEVER have any issue with criticizing or praising as you've described. I've already spent a small fortune and can see how it can get emotional. Thanks for what you've done already!

 

[Ouddict]

Thanks Bhanny... I would go further and ask all vendors to be more involved in the forum. It can only be a win-win scenario when they are willing to come and talk about their work with their customers and indeed win new customers. I am personally grateful to have had AlShareef, Feel Oud, Agarwood Indonesia and Imperial Oud on this forum from the start. Others have been invited and I see that Rising Phoenix recently joined us as well. So this is an open call to the others to come over and make this a thriving community where everyone benefits.

 

[m.arif]

So I've chosen not to post here because of one particular posters incessant obsession with bashing Ensar, which is still roaring today I see. I appreciate admin trying to clean it up a bit. Its too bad adults can't behave better. Forgive these last few sentences, I have a hard time with people smearing the name of people I personally respect. Anyways..

The reason I came back today was to give props to a great oil by Al Shareef Oud, Hudhayl. He kindly reached out to me to recommend it and I'm so grateful he did. It is truly a wonderful Hindi, exactly as I like them. Heavily resinated, yet with all the lovely nuances and notes expected in a nice Hindi oil. It starts with beautiful incense, resins, mild spices and peppery wood. Then a perfectly right amount of barn creeps in, never too heavy, it just whispers loud enough to know its there. The drydown is chock full of sweet resins and wood.

Well done, great oil. Definitely bottle worthy.

Hudhayl -the wood, looks very nice. Awesome that you got to smell the oil!

 

[5MeO]

Yes Bhanny please don't leave - like Ghandi said, "Be the change you want to see in the world..." And generally the bickering about oud vendors is pretty tame compared to the flame wars people have on other forums - I think it adds some spice to the scene personally..

 

[firdaous]

Having said that, customers are welcome to discuss and praise or criticize Ouds that they have personally bought or samples of, as this is educational and informative for the rest of us. It is a bit of a balancing act as Oud is something that can trigger passions and opinions like no other scent, partly due to the money that Oud lovers put into purchasing their small 3g bottles of liquid magic (or not in some cases). Some vendors might feel that customers do not appreciate the hard work, knowhow, effort, risk and cost that goes into obtaining their products, but that's just the way it is and civil discussion without insult or maligning the intentions of either side is accepted here. So please, continue to visit and if you have any suggestions on how to improve our forum I would personally love to hear them. 🙂[/QUOTE]

@Ouddict well done and in a polite manner too, passions and tensions are easy to understand when you see the amounts involved...