Question regarding musk storage and maceration
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Saudalhajri
True Ouddict
Not sure really. I’ve asked this question before but never got a clear answer. Malaysian oud is vey very diverse in both species and scent profile, and can range from creamy barnyard to bright clean green to dark forest and moss to resinous floral.
Kabir Attars
OudSufi
@Saudalhajri
My Malaysian that I used was dark and resinous with the Musk it became smooth sweet and resinous.
My Malaysian that I used was dark and resinous with the Musk it became smooth sweet and resinous.
Mr.P
oud<3er
This is where I get stuck because every Malaysian smells a little different I feel like!
Saudalhajri
True Ouddict
I have a bag of about a dozen Oud’s direct from Malaysia. Every single one is different. One of them has a benzoin like note, one of them smells exactly like warm banana bread. It’s a weird region when you dig deeper and deeper, very very diverse. Can’t really group them and call them all “Malaysian” like you would with Indian, Kalimantan, or Cambodian.
Saudalhajri
True Ouddict
Does anyone know if the percentages recommend (10% 20% etc) are for dry or semi wet musk?
Because wet musk after drying can lose up to 50% of its weight.
So if I use dry musk at 10%, it’s the equivalent of 20% of a wet musk maceration.
So which state of musk is used to formulate and determine the percentage?
Because wet musk after drying can lose up to 50% of its weight.
So if I use dry musk at 10%, it’s the equivalent of 20% of a wet musk maceration.
So which state of musk is used to formulate and determine the percentage?
Mousse de Chene
True Ouddict
From my understanding, wet musk shouldn’t be macerated as the moisture in the musk is enough to create a cloudy or hazy visual appearance to your end product. Especially if you’re going to use the maceration to create an attar, you want as little water as possible. Semi-dry or dry grains are the preferable options.
Saudalhajri
True Ouddict
Thank you for that. It makes sense now.
I was confused because I’ve seen people opening the pod and through the grains right away in oil.
Saudalhajri
True Ouddict
Has anyone tried macerating both Siberian and Mongolian grains 1:1 in sandalwood or oud?
Kabir Attars
OudSufi
That's like making a paste.
Saudalhajri
True Ouddict
No I meant mixing Siberian and Mongolian grains , 1 gram Siberian and 1 gram Mongolian. And macerating it in sandalwood at 20%, 8grams sandalwood + 1 gram Siberian +1 gram Mongolian.
Mr.P
oud<3er
How would you describe the difference between the two types of grains? I have smelled both from Ninjarob, but I'm not a musk connoisseur and the similarities were more obvious than the differences. I know there were differences but I haven't studied these closely enough to really articulate... the Siberian seemed to be a little more potent somehow, or at least a little stronger initially.
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Saudalhajri
True Ouddict
I don’t have much experience with Mongolian, but to me it’s a bit more chocolaty earthy deep dark animalic. While Siberian has more top notes, floral musky sharp and a bit stronger
Mr.P
oud<3er
I recall preferring the siberian slightly because of that potency - I do find the scintillating lively musk top notes to be an important part of its charm
Kabir Attars
OudSufi
I find the Mongolian to more floral and soft and smooth and The Siberian to be more animalistic and sharper.
Mousse de Chene
True Ouddict
@Ahmaoud & myself were discussing this subject recently. Siberian grains have a soil-petrichor aroma, cold, green, almost mineralic with a sharper, more pronounced animalic ammonia like aroma.
Mongolian grains are much softer, chocolatey, fruity, floral, the animalic nuance is more plush & rounded, far less sharp than the Siberian.
Mongolian grains are much softer, chocolatey, fruity, floral, the animalic nuance is more plush & rounded, far less sharp than the Siberian.
