-Renton-
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How much did you get and how much is it per gram? Just to save me from looking lol.
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TheOudDood
Not that Brandon
You can find his original post for it for all the info 😁
-Renton-
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God damn you, Brandon...
Mr.P
oud<3er
Tarakan qadeem (or is it ateeq - I don't have a bottle with a label on it).
I would carry this with me everywhere if I wasn't afraid of losing it. I have a variety of oils of roughly a similar caliber but for whatever reason this is the one grab instinctively and the one that I'm always looking for when it's in some pocket or drawer and I can't recall.
Why do I like it? The first thing is it has a certain "phenolic" aspect that I really love assuming I understand the meaning of this term. As I see it it's something akin to a smoky note, yet not at all literally smokey. I like that in this oil and that's one of the things that appeals to me about the other oil would be my go to oil if I had more of it which is the super hoi an.
Both of these oils have this kind of pre-burnt note and I feel like it's a blasphemy to use the word burnt. But something in the distillation process whether it was heat perfect fermentation releases this kind of nose grabbing slightly bitter deeply engaging aroma that brings heat to mind for me but not combustion.
The oils diverge after that so back to the Tarakan: this oil really hits the spot. Every time I put it on my daughter is struck by it if she is anywhere in the vicinity. Sweet balsamic rich ambergris mulch and deeply oudy. Pairs perfectly with that opening heat note.
I would carry this with me everywhere if I wasn't afraid of losing it. I have a variety of oils of roughly a similar caliber but for whatever reason this is the one grab instinctively and the one that I'm always looking for when it's in some pocket or drawer and I can't recall.
Why do I like it? The first thing is it has a certain "phenolic" aspect that I really love assuming I understand the meaning of this term. As I see it it's something akin to a smoky note, yet not at all literally smokey. I like that in this oil and that's one of the things that appeals to me about the other oil would be my go to oil if I had more of it which is the super hoi an.
Both of these oils have this kind of pre-burnt note and I feel like it's a blasphemy to use the word burnt. But something in the distillation process whether it was heat perfect fermentation releases this kind of nose grabbing slightly bitter deeply engaging aroma that brings heat to mind for me but not combustion.
The oils diverge after that so back to the Tarakan: this oil really hits the spot. Every time I put it on my daughter is struck by it if she is anywhere in the vicinity. Sweet balsamic rich ambergris mulch and deeply oudy. Pairs perfectly with that opening heat note.
mesOUD
Resident Artisan
I understand what you mean so well, I sourced some top notch woods from the same region for distilling, but this oil is distilled and aged so well.That I am very afraid that the oil I will distill may not be as good as this Tarakan Qadeem, because it is a very tough competitor.
Dr B1414
True Ouddict
Some Leyte oils before bed
Yusa Leyte Kyukyoku This is a quite sweet Pinoy, the sweetest I have ever tried. The Pinoy profile is veiled by a full front honeyed sweetness. Quite sheer and more focused on the top and mid notes. Clean and sweet. It's a really nice oil, I wish it had more body and less sweetness.
EO Abu Yog Quite the opposite spectrum. Full-bodied, full-spectrum oil. Different from OR 2 and Pinoy, more earthy, resinous, cocoa facets, creamy florals, richer, deeper in profile. Very resinous oil. Some smokiness as well. Clean with minimum sweetness. Some parts of it remind me of IO Malindang, without that creaminess and Gyrinops dry-down, or the mango note, and more floral.
Yusa Leyte Kyukyoku This is a quite sweet Pinoy, the sweetest I have ever tried. The Pinoy profile is veiled by a full front honeyed sweetness. Quite sheer and more focused on the top and mid notes. Clean and sweet. It's a really nice oil, I wish it had more body and less sweetness.
EO Abu Yog Quite the opposite spectrum. Full-bodied, full-spectrum oil. Different from OR 2 and Pinoy, more earthy, resinous, cocoa facets, creamy florals, richer, deeper in profile. Very resinous oil. Some smokiness as well. Clean with minimum sweetness. Some parts of it remind me of IO Malindang, without that creaminess and Gyrinops dry-down, or the mango note, and more floral.
-Renton-
True Ouddict
Did you dilute it in everclear? If so why? Also, what is the difference between distillate and steam distillation, or is it interchangeable?
Mr.P
oud<3er
I just meant a distilled oil not a CO2 extract. It is common practice to study aromatics diluted to 5 - 10 % in alcohol as a way to learn their subtleties. I have dilutions of pretty much every oil in my collection.
Some nuances that get lost in the complexity when applied full strength emerge and become clear when the intensity is dialed down. There are also some chemical reactions that happened with the alcohol that create some interesting novel notes.
Some nuances that get lost in the complexity when applied full strength emerge and become clear when the intensity is dialed down. There are also some chemical reactions that happened with the alcohol that create some interesting novel notes.
-Renton-
True Ouddict
If you can, would you mind describing how I could od this?
-Renton-
True Ouddict
Hirta Deadwood by @Maunamoku .
This is an oil I was always afraid of using after first getting it and saw it was going down (and I love this oil soooo much it is amazing, absolutely fantastic) , but it is pretty much only went down in volume by the tiniest bit because I am afraid of using a good amount of it, which ends up just being pointless, today I put quite a bit on, and no amount in volume was lost in any perceptible way, and I think I am going to keep applying this another 1 or 2 times as I havent worn it in so long, and the main notes last 2.5 hours and then its base notes for like 30 mins then dry down, so I am gonna keep applying as I want more and more of this today as I am enjoying it so much after not wearing it in so long.
Anyway, the notes start off with a nice clean, ethereal type, wet jungle notes with a nice herbaceous note, camphor is very strong in the top notes but starts to calm down a bit at the start of the heart notes and around 20-30 mins into the heart notes it is really nice and calm, a camphor note that uplifts your mood in only way a good camphor note can, the camphor here is a spectacular note, nice and clean, clear and you can feel your heart going a bit faster and your mind becoming more excitable and happy (even though there is no, I dont think so anyway, actual camphor in the oil just the aroma, but it feels like camphor is there and causing its, very well known, psychoactive effects, and I know that for myself as I have burned PURE camphor in small pieces on coal from temple of incense). Notes of bittersweet-ness, it is bitter from the wet jungle notes (which still are there throughout most of the heart, but go in and out of the background but you can always smell it somewhere, in an ethereal but noticeable way) and sweet from berry notes, red ones mainly. As the oil develops in the heart it you start to get wee glimpses of lovely florals and sweet, somewhat creamy chocolate that stay for a while, around 2-3 mins, then fade back into the berry notes, there's orange fruity notes too that were quite strong for a good while, but went away. Further we go along, I start getting hints of powderiness, and it starts developing and it reaches this peak of absolutely BEAUTIFUL (and I mean this in a strong way) powdery floral notes, more floral than last time, and they stay for a good while too, and they actually go into the background for the rest of the wear, if you keep an attention on them and intend to listen to them you will still smell those beautiful notes of amazing, kinamic-like florals. I am 2.5 hours into this and it went into the base notes around an hour 30-45 mins ago (max 60mins), and the jungle notes with some camphor is coming back as a main force, but I can also smell a slight camphor mint, but mainly I can tell that there will be a KINAMIC mintiness on the dry down, with florals that are already happening, once I am enjoying the dry down for a good couple hours I may use this oil again today.
Oh and I forgot to add, you get lovely agarwood notes and agarwood incense (agarwood heating or burning on coal gently) that is quite woody and gives you a nice representation of what the Hirta wood would smell like, if you had it raw.
Finally, I don't need to use this oil a lot, but when I do use it, I need to remember not to be scared to use a good amount for it to be a good experience, as the oil itself may not be too viscous, and rather liquid-y, but for some reason it goes down slower than some of my thicker oils (Cambodi Qadeem for example).
Sam done an amazing job here. Good, WILD Aquilaria. hirta is a rare find on its own but GOOD Hirta Deadwood? Wowzers, and making that wood a new gen oil, was a very, very wise decision by Sam, it captures the beauty of this wood perfectly.
UPDATE: I am on the base notes, nearing dry down and it has this absolutely gorgeous orange coloured fruits, berries and citrus, with a bit floral. I cant wait to see what dry down is like, as the dry down for this oil is NOT boring.
UPDATE 2: 4.5 hours in and I can still feel oil on my skin, but very minimal, most of it has dried in, but when I look at my hand in the light you can still see the hand is oily, I am guessing I am at the end of the base notes and I am heading into dry down any second now. The notes now are just pure, sweet, agarwood (that was used in this oil-type smell) that is getting heated with no smokiness, great florals, and red berries, with a kinamic spicy and minty tone.
This is an oil I was always afraid of using after first getting it and saw it was going down (and I love this oil soooo much it is amazing, absolutely fantastic) , but it is pretty much only went down in volume by the tiniest bit because I am afraid of using a good amount of it, which ends up just being pointless, today I put quite a bit on, and no amount in volume was lost in any perceptible way, and I think I am going to keep applying this another 1 or 2 times as I havent worn it in so long, and the main notes last 2.5 hours and then its base notes for like 30 mins then dry down, so I am gonna keep applying as I want more and more of this today as I am enjoying it so much after not wearing it in so long.
Anyway, the notes start off with a nice clean, ethereal type, wet jungle notes with a nice herbaceous note, camphor is very strong in the top notes but starts to calm down a bit at the start of the heart notes and around 20-30 mins into the heart notes it is really nice and calm, a camphor note that uplifts your mood in only way a good camphor note can, the camphor here is a spectacular note, nice and clean, clear and you can feel your heart going a bit faster and your mind becoming more excitable and happy (even though there is no, I dont think so anyway, actual camphor in the oil just the aroma, but it feels like camphor is there and causing its, very well known, psychoactive effects, and I know that for myself as I have burned PURE camphor in small pieces on coal from temple of incense). Notes of bittersweet-ness, it is bitter from the wet jungle notes (which still are there throughout most of the heart, but go in and out of the background but you can always smell it somewhere, in an ethereal but noticeable way) and sweet from berry notes, red ones mainly. As the oil develops in the heart it you start to get wee glimpses of lovely florals and sweet, somewhat creamy chocolate that stay for a while, around 2-3 mins, then fade back into the berry notes, there's orange fruity notes too that were quite strong for a good while, but went away. Further we go along, I start getting hints of powderiness, and it starts developing and it reaches this peak of absolutely BEAUTIFUL (and I mean this in a strong way) powdery floral notes, more floral than last time, and they stay for a good while too, and they actually go into the background for the rest of the wear, if you keep an attention on them and intend to listen to them you will still smell those beautiful notes of amazing, kinamic-like florals. I am 2.5 hours into this and it went into the base notes around an hour 30-45 mins ago (max 60mins), and the jungle notes with some camphor is coming back as a main force, but I can also smell a slight camphor mint, but mainly I can tell that there will be a KINAMIC mintiness on the dry down, with florals that are already happening, once I am enjoying the dry down for a good couple hours I may use this oil again today.
Oh and I forgot to add, you get lovely agarwood notes and agarwood incense (agarwood heating or burning on coal gently) that is quite woody and gives you a nice representation of what the Hirta wood would smell like, if you had it raw.
Finally, I don't need to use this oil a lot, but when I do use it, I need to remember not to be scared to use a good amount for it to be a good experience, as the oil itself may not be too viscous, and rather liquid-y, but for some reason it goes down slower than some of my thicker oils (Cambodi Qadeem for example).
Sam done an amazing job here. Good, WILD Aquilaria. hirta is a rare find on its own but GOOD Hirta Deadwood? Wowzers, and making that wood a new gen oil, was a very, very wise decision by Sam, it captures the beauty of this wood perfectly.
UPDATE: I am on the base notes, nearing dry down and it has this absolutely gorgeous orange coloured fruits, berries and citrus, with a bit floral. I cant wait to see what dry down is like, as the dry down for this oil is NOT boring.
UPDATE 2: 4.5 hours in and I can still feel oil on my skin, but very minimal, most of it has dried in, but when I look at my hand in the light you can still see the hand is oily, I am guessing I am at the end of the base notes and I am heading into dry down any second now. The notes now are just pure, sweet, agarwood (that was used in this oil-type smell) that is getting heated with no smokiness, great florals, and red berries, with a kinamic spicy and minty tone.
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Mr.P
oud<3er
I have lots of 10 mL spray bottles (I have been selling perfumes in a local shop) so when i have a new oud i will prepare a 1 or 2% dilution. To do this i add 0.1 or 0.2 ml to the 10ml bottle and then top off with everclear. The aroma seems to change/develop for about a month so what you smell right away is not what you will smell a month down the line.
Also when I am down to the last 0.1 ML of an oud that I want to remember I will always make it into a 1% dilution and then store it. I have a couple of boxes filled with 10 mL bottles with every oil going back to the very first basenotes oud days etc. 🙂 it's kind of priceless to me - I still have some of my very first pure oud oil from 1997 or so. 🙂
-Renton-
True Ouddict
So, I add 0.2ml of Oud to a 10ml bottle and the rest with strong alcohol? After that, how do you store it? Also, wouldn't this make it smell of alcohol? What happens in that month, how do you store it, with a cap on the bottle or without so that the alcohol can evaporate or what? Does this turn the oud into a more of a perfume? I have seen sandalwood powder and oil made into perfume in a seemingly similar manner to this., so this is a perfume not an oud you would swipe? And why after a month would the alcohol smell be gone? Sorry for all the questions lol, just really interested and might give it ago, but sadly everclear isn't legal in Scotland, I don't think, so can't even order it online, would food grade 95% ethanol work too?
Himanshu Sharma
True Ouddict
Oud Nuh this afternoon
My love for traditional hindis keep on growing with days. I've found myself wearing old style Hindis recently.
I am very thankful for the ouds I have🤞
My love for traditional hindis keep on growing with days. I've found myself wearing old style Hindis recently.
I am very thankful for the ouds I have🤞
Mr.P
oud<3er
Yep as simple as can be. Food grade 95% ethanol is my preferred choice for making alcohol based perfume. Everclear is a brand of food grade alcohol. It is very expensive so perfumer's alcohol provides a cheaper way if you don't want to spend so much on the solvent of your perfumes (or if you are making lots of perfume the cost of food grade alcohol becomes prohibitive).
One percent dissolved in 95% food grade alcohol works for me, but I am looking for something mild to really disperse the oil and open up the scent as i see it. If you were trying to make it literally as a perfume you might want to have 10-30% oud oil.
The 1 or 2% is best appreciated at a time when you haven't recently smelled any full strength oils and are just aiming to study that particular oil.
I didn't mean to suggest that the alcohol smell ever vanishes. What I meant is that as the alcohol and the oil sit the smell of the oil itself sometimes changes noticeably. I can't describe the details but there's all kinds of chemical reactions that happen with oxygen and alcohol and all of the different things that make up the essential oil itself.
So the aroma the first couple of days after you prepare it and the aroma a month later can be a bit different. In the case of the oil I was talking about a certain peppery note became exaggerated and the balance of the smell had changed.
I don't store in any particular way other than to keep it boxed up, out of the light, and in a place that doesn't get particularly hot or cold
Ibn Abdillah
True Ouddict
Once again someone redefining detail of the detail😉, I think we've got the hang of it here. I love it.
Thanks for taking us into it.
Nice to read that you experienced it so intensely.
Don't worry about running out, just enjoy it. And maybe these types of oils are nice to apply once in a while, anyway, enjoy every moment
I've worn so much lately, I should be writing for frequently cause otherwise it's lost to memory
Yesterday was White Kinam by Al Hind; a very beautiful oil. Very light, minty and soft, but it did last for about 6hrs. On Saturday I had worn White Kinam from MesOud in preparation for this oil, to mentally compare them but now I can't think how they stack up against each other. I think the Mes Oud one didn't last as long
Also Fiet-nam by Al Hind (same name as an Al Hashimi oil BTW, not sure if Mohammad was aware of that with the naming?). Lovely oil!
Today, another 2x Al Hind - Ko Thang and Hindi Jadeed 2.
HJ2: beautiful oil! New-Age Hindi yet different, I wouldn't describe it as "golden/honeyed" as I often do for new age Hindi oils, but uhh....I dunno how I'd even describe it. Even the drydown is different. I'm not explaining well here but I do find that many new-age Hindis have a very similar vibe with only minute differences that I can't articulate. This seems to stand out differently.
KT: Quite "un-Thai", lacking in that fruity sweetness you'd expect to get. Comes across as rather powdery actually!
Yesterday was White Kinam by Al Hind; a very beautiful oil. Very light, minty and soft, but it did last for about 6hrs. On Saturday I had worn White Kinam from MesOud in preparation for this oil, to mentally compare them but now I can't think how they stack up against each other. I think the Mes Oud one didn't last as long
Also Fiet-nam by Al Hind (same name as an Al Hashimi oil BTW, not sure if Mohammad was aware of that with the naming?). Lovely oil!
Today, another 2x Al Hind - Ko Thang and Hindi Jadeed 2.
HJ2: beautiful oil! New-Age Hindi yet different, I wouldn't describe it as "golden/honeyed" as I often do for new age Hindi oils, but uhh....I dunno how I'd even describe it. Even the drydown is different. I'm not explaining well here but I do find that many new-age Hindis have a very similar vibe with only minute differences that I can't articulate. This seems to stand out differently.
KT: Quite "un-Thai", lacking in that fruity sweetness you'd expect to get. Comes across as rather powdery actually!
AlHind Oud
Resident Artisan
Yeah I got to knew after I released the oil and I apologized in another thread somewhere. 😬 AlHashimi was kind enough not to sue me 😅.
AlHind Oud
Resident Artisan
Fridous 1 - Sri Lankan today.
A perfect Oud for Jumah! 😍
A perfect Oud for Jumah! 😍
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