No animalic or fermentation notes like usually found in older distillations?
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-Renton-
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Not to me, nope. The only one I found really fermented is mesOUD's Cambodi Qadeem. But that is a Thaqeel style oud, this one isn't, but is close to the viscosity to it. Although, there may be some muskiness near the end on the base notes, not sure, but it definitely isn't a clean clean oil either, if you get what I mean? Definitely is funky, but in a really nice pleasant way.
EDIT: It could have fermented notes and I just don't pick them up because to me fermented usually means really barny type style, but I guess Cambodi Qadeem is fermented quite a bit, and I can see the similarities in that to this, but this oil is 10x better and LESS fermentation 100%. I do get some of the funky, sourness in this oil, yes. Although, I don't think its a turn off at all, and could actually be suitable for a starter oud, even though it is quite complex and has that similar "bite" of Cambodi Qadeem. I didn't know fermentation could be so broad lol, I always just pictured it as Hindi barny oils🤣 .
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Got it
Thanks.
I think of fermented notes as indolic smell which some describe as "richness" and others as animalic, FECAL, jasmine or floral sweetness,etc.
Olfactory Nomad
Smells so Oud
Understood. Unsure how I had read that a couple of times the other day. But you're right, maybe people have samples that he has sent to them outside of the sample set.
-Renton-
True Ouddict
Ahh, if you think of it that way then yeah, it is fermented.
Thanks. And yes, different oils can have different degrees of fermentation! And it seems like the oil you tried is LESS fermented than others.
Escentually
True Ouddict
myoudshop - Meiktila
Agar Aura - Myitkyina 4K
Have a special birthday party to attend tonight so decided to put on two special oils. Burmese all the way today, unfortunately I think I’ll be preoccupied and won’t be able to study them as closely as I’d like, but the bubble surrounding me tonight is impeccable.
Meiktila is a slightly sour honey yellow almost amber orange smelling oil. An a. Sinensis oil that is quite a treat. Dried apricots and a intoxicating golden honey. A creamy steamed milk/custard note. Like a dessert in an oil.
M4K gets crazier and crazier with every wear for me. The metallic sparkly ambergris opening combining with a peachy honey note. Slightly bitter purple scent with cooling vaporous tone to it. Super unique oil and one day I’ll be able to nail it down.
Hope y’all have a great Saturday🙌
Agar Aura - Myitkyina 4K
Have a special birthday party to attend tonight so decided to put on two special oils. Burmese all the way today, unfortunately I think I’ll be preoccupied and won’t be able to study them as closely as I’d like, but the bubble surrounding me tonight is impeccable.
Meiktila is a slightly sour honey yellow almost amber orange smelling oil. An a. Sinensis oil that is quite a treat. Dried apricots and a intoxicating golden honey. A creamy steamed milk/custard note. Like a dessert in an oil.
M4K gets crazier and crazier with every wear for me. The metallic sparkly ambergris opening combining with a peachy honey note. Slightly bitter purple scent with cooling vaporous tone to it. Super unique oil and one day I’ll be able to nail it down.
Hope y’all have a great Saturday🙌
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Tauhid Shaikh
True Ouddict
I imagine it as purple meets dark brown 😁
Fragdoctor
True Ouddict
Interesting. I’ll have to revisit Dokusan and close my eyes to imagine.
Escentually
True Ouddict
myoudshop - Vietnam Bead
Today is a quiet day so I can sit in peace and study an oil. Decided to go with the Vietnamese oil that I was generously gifted in the pack. An A. sinensis oil distilled from Vietnamese bead scraps, and ridiculously good smelling!
Forgive me for the following notes may be off, this oil is very unique smelling to me and not something I’m familiar with. My only other Vietnamese oil neat is Grand Emperor Hue, which shares very light similarities with this oil.
Off the bottle and in the first minute or so is an ancient red smell, old cherry liquor and dusty buildings from centuries gone by. This is very very brief, although i wish it lasted a little longer. Following is a musky sweaty aroma. That of a wet dog exiting a pool filled with ambergris, not the white kind. This dog has somehow found himself a clove cigarette to puff on as he’s drying off too, spicy smoke mixing with the smell of his musty fur. There’s bits and pieces of honeyed florals and dark resinous woods, even some bitter mint coming out at times. but that unique wet dog accord is what plays the main role for me.
This is clear for an hour and change until the musk loses a touch of its bad breath note, giving it a more sparkling citrus feel to it. The clove spice changing more to an incense smoke, softening the sharp edges of the initial aroma. The musk and spice are all contained in a warm honeyed bubble here as well, never escaping the reaches of the syrupy sweetness and going out of place. I can update on the drydown if there’s is more progression and change in the scent. Blessed to have another sinensis beauty in the humble collection.
Today is a quiet day so I can sit in peace and study an oil. Decided to go with the Vietnamese oil that I was generously gifted in the pack. An A. sinensis oil distilled from Vietnamese bead scraps, and ridiculously good smelling!
Forgive me for the following notes may be off, this oil is very unique smelling to me and not something I’m familiar with. My only other Vietnamese oil neat is Grand Emperor Hue, which shares very light similarities with this oil.
Off the bottle and in the first minute or so is an ancient red smell, old cherry liquor and dusty buildings from centuries gone by. This is very very brief, although i wish it lasted a little longer. Following is a musky sweaty aroma. That of a wet dog exiting a pool filled with ambergris, not the white kind. This dog has somehow found himself a clove cigarette to puff on as he’s drying off too, spicy smoke mixing with the smell of his musty fur. There’s bits and pieces of honeyed florals and dark resinous woods, even some bitter mint coming out at times. but that unique wet dog accord is what plays the main role for me.
This is clear for an hour and change until the musk loses a touch of its bad breath note, giving it a more sparkling citrus feel to it. The clove spice changing more to an incense smoke, softening the sharp edges of the initial aroma. The musk and spice are all contained in a warm honeyed bubble here as well, never escaping the reaches of the syrupy sweetness and going out of place. I can update on the drydown if there’s is more progression and change in the scent. Blessed to have another sinensis beauty in the humble collection.
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Dr B1414
True Ouddict
Went with some Borneo oils today.
EO Sultan Mehmet to do a side-by-side with Jinkoh Store Malinau Qi. While they share the same aesthetic, they are quite different. The same aesthetic means they both showcase this creamy, rich, unsweetened vanilla quality of the terroir. No sweetness, and no honey. These two are the only Borneo oils that have this characteristic. Borneo Diesel also but that one is not as vanilla forward. The difference is that Mehmet is more focused on the vanilla flavor, with almost 0 woodiness and subtle nutty facets. In M Qi, the woodiness is more present and the nutty quality is very strong, the strongest I smelled in any Borneo oil. They both share this white floral quality, which feels more green in Qi. Qi has 0 fruity nuances whereas Mehmet has lots of raspberry notes to it. Both are stellar, top-notch oils. Very much love both and they do occupy this unique place in my Borneo collection due to the way they handle the vanillic quality and the sweetness for this specific terroir.
EO Borneo 50K This one is all around the most complete Borneo oil I have tried in the sense that it offers every single facet you'd expect from such an oil. "All you can sniff" buffet. Some of that minty-green quality, the berries, the vanilla, the nuts, the honey, the flowers, and the wood. It's all there, and it comes and goes. Changes a lot throughout the wear, and never stays in one place. Smooth as silk and explodes with colors. The most colorful and constantly changing Borneo oil. It feels a bit shy compared to the bigger names, even compared to the previously discussed. But delivers in all other aspects. I think this oil is on par with the infamous Borneo 3000 and offers a more complex olfactory experience. For the money it demands today still, it might be one of the best from this region to grab if you want an excellent one for reference.
Man, looking back to my oud journey these Indonesian oils climbed up to be my second favorite terroir, only second to Malays. And Malays became the no. 1 from my least favorite. With Indonesian oils, Borneo and Maluku(Seram mostly) are for sure a real treat when properly done. Brunei also, but those are so rare, especially good ones. When it comes to amazing (not good, ok, or decent) Borneos, no one can match the EO offerings, in my humble opinion. There's not even a close second. The only exception would be the two Borneo oils Jinkoh offered, Malinau Qi and Grand Emperor Tarakan. When I smell these I get the same quality and standard I smell in the EO Borneo oils. What Marius has done there, is just brilliant. The latest one, Borneo Qi though, is a far cry from the previous two. For several years I have tried a few Borneos from other vendors and they were either awful or decent. Too jungly, too smoky, too woody, too green, and never really made me think, "This is a fine Borneo oil". You can get great Veits, Chinese, Cambodis, Silanis, and more from all vendors but when it comes to Borneo, I don't bother anymore, just go straight to EO. Don't know what Ensar did there. Either he sourced all the good wood before anyone else, or he just understood how to express this terroir better than anyone else, all I know is that when it comes to Borneo, nothing can match his oils. I purchased 10 bottles of Borneo oils since I started collecting oud and 8 are EO. All of them are stellar. And then the 2 from Marius that are on the same level in my opinion. At first, Borneos struck me as beautiful oils, easy to enjoy but perhaps a bit "superficial". Now, I finally come to appreciate their beauty.
EO Sultan Mehmet to do a side-by-side with Jinkoh Store Malinau Qi. While they share the same aesthetic, they are quite different. The same aesthetic means they both showcase this creamy, rich, unsweetened vanilla quality of the terroir. No sweetness, and no honey. These two are the only Borneo oils that have this characteristic. Borneo Diesel also but that one is not as vanilla forward. The difference is that Mehmet is more focused on the vanilla flavor, with almost 0 woodiness and subtle nutty facets. In M Qi, the woodiness is more present and the nutty quality is very strong, the strongest I smelled in any Borneo oil. They both share this white floral quality, which feels more green in Qi. Qi has 0 fruity nuances whereas Mehmet has lots of raspberry notes to it. Both are stellar, top-notch oils. Very much love both and they do occupy this unique place in my Borneo collection due to the way they handle the vanillic quality and the sweetness for this specific terroir.
EO Borneo 50K This one is all around the most complete Borneo oil I have tried in the sense that it offers every single facet you'd expect from such an oil. "All you can sniff" buffet. Some of that minty-green quality, the berries, the vanilla, the nuts, the honey, the flowers, and the wood. It's all there, and it comes and goes. Changes a lot throughout the wear, and never stays in one place. Smooth as silk and explodes with colors. The most colorful and constantly changing Borneo oil. It feels a bit shy compared to the bigger names, even compared to the previously discussed. But delivers in all other aspects. I think this oil is on par with the infamous Borneo 3000 and offers a more complex olfactory experience. For the money it demands today still, it might be one of the best from this region to grab if you want an excellent one for reference.
Man, looking back to my oud journey these Indonesian oils climbed up to be my second favorite terroir, only second to Malays. And Malays became the no. 1 from my least favorite. With Indonesian oils, Borneo and Maluku(Seram mostly) are for sure a real treat when properly done. Brunei also, but those are so rare, especially good ones. When it comes to amazing (not good, ok, or decent) Borneos, no one can match the EO offerings, in my humble opinion. There's not even a close second. The only exception would be the two Borneo oils Jinkoh offered, Malinau Qi and Grand Emperor Tarakan. When I smell these I get the same quality and standard I smell in the EO Borneo oils. What Marius has done there, is just brilliant. The latest one, Borneo Qi though, is a far cry from the previous two. For several years I have tried a few Borneos from other vendors and they were either awful or decent. Too jungly, too smoky, too woody, too green, and never really made me think, "This is a fine Borneo oil". You can get great Veits, Chinese, Cambodis, Silanis, and more from all vendors but when it comes to Borneo, I don't bother anymore, just go straight to EO. Don't know what Ensar did there. Either he sourced all the good wood before anyone else, or he just understood how to express this terroir better than anyone else, all I know is that when it comes to Borneo, nothing can match his oils. I purchased 10 bottles of Borneo oils since I started collecting oud and 8 are EO. All of them are stellar. And then the 2 from Marius that are on the same level in my opinion. At first, Borneos struck me as beautiful oils, easy to enjoy but perhaps a bit "superficial". Now, I finally come to appreciate their beauty.
Ersel
Stoudent
HabzOud's Mutahid with some musk grains inside, plus a small swipe of Altaws this morning. I smelt good to myself for the whole day, and to someone else in the morning apparently also, because I got a compliment. For the first period upon application the projection of Mutahid is excellent.
Oudamberlove
Member
Al Hashimi Lindaraja
I was preparing a sample vial to share with a friend by letting the drops fall into the vial from the dipstick one by one, but one drop fell on my formica top table, well, I didn’t want it to go to waste and rubbed my wrist on the drop.
30 minutes later, and it does smell beautiful indeed😊
I was preparing a sample vial to share with a friend by letting the drops fall into the vial from the dipstick one by one, but one drop fell on my formica top table, well, I didn’t want it to go to waste and rubbed my wrist on the drop.
30 minutes later, and it does smell beautiful indeed😊
YusaAromatics
True Ouddict
MesOUD - Habib
Jinkoh Store - Maluku
IO - Shah Jahan
YA - Naphung for tonight !
Jinkoh Store - Maluku
IO - Shah Jahan
YA - Naphung for tonight !
Escentually
True Ouddict
mesOUD - Haikou
mesOUD - Pursat Gold
Haikou is a A. Sinensis and White Cultivated Kinam mix. You’re presented with a wide assortment of confectionary flavors when you swipe this oil. Cotton candy, raw sugar, and bubblegum like florals. Presented next to it is a bitter mint and “Chinese” medicine herb shop smell. A 1-2 punch that I can’t get enough of. The hits of tooth-aching sweetness mixing with the eye-watering bitterness is not found anywhere else in the world, natural or synthetic.
The scent transitions from the sugary sweet, to a more white grape jelly and aloe juice tartness. There’s a milky creaminess akin to steamed milk that turns the grape purple flavor to a creamier violet like drink. There’s still a palatable mintiness that makes it all feel like a mint-infused honey that you added to an aloe juice latte.
The drydown has a pleasant aroma of sweetness that lingers, but it’s not nearly as in your face as it started with. Sugars now turning more to sweet woods. The minty bitterness has now moved more to an incense smoke. For some reason I get the color green when I close my eyes and picture the incense wafting through the room. It had a sort of herbal aroma to it. Overall a very addicting scent, I have almost went through my whole sample in just the last three days.
Pursat Gold is a Cambodi Crassna oil that has all the hallmarks of the species. A lovely opening of semi-sour but certainly sweet fruits, more peachy and strawberries than the apricot jam I get in others. The scent to me is more sweet in the opening, like a syrup over a jam. Smoother and lighter in tone to a lot of the other crassna I’ve tried from Cambodi and Thailand. There’s a lovely leather that comes into play as soon as it starts to drydown on the skin. This oil lasts forever though, lingering on the skin and staying fairly linear in it’s tasty scent profile throughout the wearing. Hints of sipping a honeyed strawberry tea at your “barnyard”. It’s a lovely oil that is an easy reach when you’re feeling the profile.
mesOUD - Pursat Gold
Haikou is a A. Sinensis and White Cultivated Kinam mix. You’re presented with a wide assortment of confectionary flavors when you swipe this oil. Cotton candy, raw sugar, and bubblegum like florals. Presented next to it is a bitter mint and “Chinese” medicine herb shop smell. A 1-2 punch that I can’t get enough of. The hits of tooth-aching sweetness mixing with the eye-watering bitterness is not found anywhere else in the world, natural or synthetic.
The scent transitions from the sugary sweet, to a more white grape jelly and aloe juice tartness. There’s a milky creaminess akin to steamed milk that turns the grape purple flavor to a creamier violet like drink. There’s still a palatable mintiness that makes it all feel like a mint-infused honey that you added to an aloe juice latte.
The drydown has a pleasant aroma of sweetness that lingers, but it’s not nearly as in your face as it started with. Sugars now turning more to sweet woods. The minty bitterness has now moved more to an incense smoke. For some reason I get the color green when I close my eyes and picture the incense wafting through the room. It had a sort of herbal aroma to it. Overall a very addicting scent, I have almost went through my whole sample in just the last three days.
Pursat Gold is a Cambodi Crassna oil that has all the hallmarks of the species. A lovely opening of semi-sour but certainly sweet fruits, more peachy and strawberries than the apricot jam I get in others. The scent to me is more sweet in the opening, like a syrup over a jam. Smoother and lighter in tone to a lot of the other crassna I’ve tried from Cambodi and Thailand. There’s a lovely leather that comes into play as soon as it starts to drydown on the skin. This oil lasts forever though, lingering on the skin and staying fairly linear in it’s tasty scent profile throughout the wearing. Hints of sipping a honeyed strawberry tea at your “barnyard”. It’s a lovely oil that is an easy reach when you’re feeling the profile.
Mike Jonez
True Ouddict
GAME OVER
Mr.P
oud<3er
Habib is so nice. Such a very rich sent from the vial and an absolutely luxurious palate saturating deep quintessentially oudy and delicious oil. I'm trying to imagine what this would be like in five or 10 years… it is fascinating sniffing oils of this caliber that are freshly distilled.
Escentually
True Ouddict
mesOUD - Pontianak Borneo
Swiped quite a unique oil from the sample set this morning.
Opened with creamy vanilla white florals and spicy black pepper-like smoke. This opening was very brief, less than 5 minutes. What followed was a salty ambergris, resinous damp woods, and a chocolatey patchouli. The ambergris like saltiness is also paired with a leather note that adds to the ambergris murkiness. Dampness is how I would say it begins to turn, but it’s uplifted by this creamy chocolate patchouli scent and salty ambergris that keeps it sparkling. Very salty woods throughout the later portions of this oil, still keeping the creamy cacao note behind it too. Perfect for those who are looking to avoid sodium and want a salty treat.
Swiped quite a unique oil from the sample set this morning.
Opened with creamy vanilla white florals and spicy black pepper-like smoke. This opening was very brief, less than 5 minutes. What followed was a salty ambergris, resinous damp woods, and a chocolatey patchouli. The ambergris like saltiness is also paired with a leather note that adds to the ambergris murkiness. Dampness is how I would say it begins to turn, but it’s uplifted by this creamy chocolate patchouli scent and salty ambergris that keeps it sparkling. Very salty woods throughout the later portions of this oil, still keeping the creamy cacao note behind it too. Perfect for those who are looking to avoid sodium and want a salty treat.
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