Oud of the Day

Xerohome said:
to me it's the best from them with Hainan coming 2nd. it projects for about 40-60 minutes then stays close to skin for 10-12 hrs. it's a multifaceted oil, I picked some vietnamase, malinau, cambodi and even papuan nuances in it. for the color spectrum I'd call it a blue reddish then brown oil at the end. if you are looking for a great projection oils with a beast longevity, I'd recommend you to try other vendors, maybe with more traditional styles.
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yeah good call, these are a particular style and not necessarily beast mode oils. although some of them are quite loud on me. the sandalwood is a beast. also probably depends a lot on skin chemistry and local weather.
 
Xerohome said:
Thank you so much for sharing your opinion on these oils.
I'm having the same exact conclusion, one thing I noticed about Numbay oil is that the drydown smells like a regular green oil kyara with its glorious spices notes and a very faint sweetness, which was a very interesting experience.
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yeah this one had a lot more going on that I got on the first wear. today was the second day and seems there still quite a lot more to tap into. same for the papua - I wore it a few times and thought I had it figured out and since then it's been hitting differently. Brunei also keeps unfolding and improving.
 
N/A - Dark Cambodi

Another mystery oil tonight. This time going with the Cambodi. Opening with that rich soaked sour orange red cambodi shine. I’m getting lots of olive/osmanthus coming off the opening. Very resinous rich sour betel nut red cambodi type opening though that’s reading oily. After wearing the Sinensis Cambodi from @YusaAromatics earlier today this one is reading a bit linear to me. Will see how it transitions throughout the night.
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Abu Imran said:
Does the oil last long?
Is the projection powerful and long?

Or is it a skin oil?

I am tempted by this one but I fear disappointment.
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Listen to @Xerohome he answered the question. It isn't a perfume-like oud, it is more of an experience for yourself. I would say it lasts 2-3 hours then I might smell some dry down for a while afterwards, by bed time its gone.
 
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-Renton- said:
mesOUD - Trat Borai

Lovely oil, nice and fruity, red fruits sour and sweet, blue berries, grapes, dried drapes etc.

Great time spending with it.
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I agree! This one I recall had a bit of a soaked and fermented feel to it, and had none of the sour pungent funk that sometimes plagues thai oils. I have a hypothesis that lactobacillus type fermentation gets rid of the sour pungent insect notes because i have not smelled those notes in any of the fermented crassna oils i have sniffed.
 
Mr.P said:
I agree! This one I recall had a bit of a soaked and fermented feel to it, and had none of the sour pungent funk that sometimes plagues thai oils. I have a hypothesis that lactobacillus type fermentation gets rid of the sour pungent insect notes because i have not smelled those notes in any of the fermented crassna oils i have sniffed.
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Yes there is a fermented feel to it definitely, the PLEASING sour note is definitely got some fermentation action going with it at the start, then evens out and settles and becomes really enjoyable.
 
TheOudDood said:
Tarakan from Fushigi.

Much like Nha trang is like NTLTD like, Tarakan is like a White kinam light.

Not the identical scent profile, but really quite close. Lacking the potency, depth, and oophm of the EO oils, but still quite similar and a fraction of the price. Really enjoying the Tarakan so far.

Malinau from Fushigi.

Same oil as what EO was just selling as Borneo kinam for $3,333 per gram. Lmao.

Numbay/Jayapura from Fushigi.

Much more of a beast of an oil. Loud and full bodied. Reminds of a cleaner more kinamic version of Oud Royale: Papua that EO sold a few years back.

This completes my sampling of the oils they have on offer. To my nose, Hainan, Brunei, and Laos are the clear winners. Men tian is also a beast not necessarily my fav profile. Malinau, Ceylon, and papua are close contenders and I'll grab more of them at some point. The sandalwood oils is also fantastic and nearly identical to Santal Royale which was sold for $150 a gram, so at $18 a gram, it's a fairly obvious winner.

The pursat oil was a miss for me since I don't really care for that classical Cambodian profile. Nha trang is too light and airy, but still a beautiful oil.
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I finally got my Brunei Kyara from Taiwan Sifu E-Oud the other day. Insane oil , identical Oriscent power/aesthetic. This one is also the same exact oil EO sold as "Brunei Kynam or Kinam" it was some Oriscent Brunei I forgot the exact name but both were distilled 2007. Once @-Renton- told me BK by E-Oud/Fushigi was distilled 2007 I went to EOs BK description , did the math & sure enough it checked out , distilled same exact year. I can't say I'm 100% correct without any direct proof so I'll go with 99.99%.
You know all this I'm sure Brandon I'm just sharing additional info I don't think anyone has picked up on yet. I can't speak for their other oils but Brunei Kyara for sure checks out.
 
-Renton- said:
Yes there is a fermented feel to it definitely, the PLEASING sour note is definitely got some fermentation action going with it at the start, then evens out and settles and becomes really enjoyable.
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I have found some of the most wonderfully appealing dry downs in lightly fermented low priced crassna oils - like the OG "sweet trat" that pureoudh sold for $80/qt

Sweet trat is not a crown jewel overall but has a base that more than makes up for glitches in the top. This is the kind of budget stuff that could be made into a decent perfume I think...
 
Mr.P said:
I have found some of the most wonderfully appealing dry downs in lightly fermented low priced crassna oils - like the OG "sweet trat" that pureoudh sold for $80/qt

Sweet trat is not a crown jewel overall but has a base that more than makes up for glitches in the top. This is the kind of budget stuff that could be made into a decent perfume I think...
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I agree, 100%. Perfumes could be made out of things like that, instead of companies using synthetics all the time.
 
Oudycodone said:
I finally got my Brunei Kyara from Taiwan Sifu E-Oud the other day. Insane oil , identical Oriscent power/aesthetic. This one is also the same exact oil EO sold as "Brunei Kynam or Kinam" it was some Oriscent Brunei I forgot the exact name but both were distilled 2007. Once @-Renton- told me BK by E-Oud/Fushigi was distilled 2007 I went to EOs BK description , did the math & sure enough it checked out , distilled same exact year. I can't say I'm 100% correct without any direct proof so I'll go with 99.99%.
You know all this I'm sure Brandon I'm just sharing additional info I don't think anyone has picked up on yet. I can't speak for their other oils but Brunei Kyara for sure checks out.
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I owned the Brunei kinam oil that EO sold and sadly I paid $1500 for 0.5g.

Needless to say, I was underwhelmed at that price point. I was eventually able to sell it but definitely took a loss on it.

For $250 for 0.5g, I can live with it 🙂

So yeah, Im with you in saying it's likely the same oil.

The oils that I am 99% sure are the same are: Hainan, Brunei, Laos, Malinau, and men tian/myanmar kyara.

Hainan = royal kinam 2.0
Brunei = Brunei kinam
laos = pusong LTD
malinau = Borneo kinam
Men tian = men tian

Ceylon is really similar to Kyara ketone, but not exact from what I can recall from my memory. Ive owned both but it has been a few years since I put my nose on Kyara ketone to know for sure. Also the sandalwood is about 99% same as Santal Royale. I smelled both side by side and it was very difficult to detect any differences.

Also begs the question how much storage can affect an oil over time as well given that many of these distillations have aged a bit. Also begs the question of how much yarn EO was/is spinning with some of the framing and marketing of some of these oils.

They created and marinated the perception that all of their oils were these hand crafted, painstakingly curated artistic endeavors - which of course, some were. But not all.

A great example is some of the Sri Lankan oils they acted like they slaved away to distill, when in reality, were just purchased from Ali. So I would hazard a guess that a similar mechanic is true here with Fushigi. Sure, maybe they did collaborate on some distillations, but clearly he was just also a large wholesale customer for many of the oils as well.

Either way, Im content to pay a fraction of the price for oils of this caliber.
 
I think it should be honorable enough to be a world class "sommelier" of fragrance for those seeking rare fine fragrances, without having to claim to be an oud hunter / distiller etc.. in fact the odds of getting a truly world class oil might be as high or higher with a vendor who studies, seeks, and collects oils from many different distillers seeking the best outcomes around the world, as it would be with one particular distiller.

Ideally no one would feel the need to obscure the difference between personally producing things and commissioning somebody thousands of miles away to do so on their behalf, but i think due to the competitive and head-to-head nature of the early online luxury artisanal oud market, there has always been this vying to be the one with the Real Oud and once some guys started actually distilling their own stuff (Russian Adam, Taha, agarwoodindonesia) and getting into the jungles even, resellers felt pressure to claim the same level of involvement/ supervision just to remain competitive and keep the attention of the oud heads.


I appreciate the aesthetics in judgment of the master collector as much as the complete control of the distiller. Co-equals when it comes to keeping the good oud coming.
 
-Renton- said:
I agree, 100%. Perfumes could be made out of things like that, instead of companies using synthetics all the time.
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it's possible that if I ever come up with some really good concoction I might feel comfortable putting a top shelf oud into a perfume, but for now I can't imagine it. As I see it they are so perfectly beautiful in fact that it feels like a net loss to blend with them. Like repainting the grand canyon.
 
TheOudDood said:
I owned the Brunei kinam oil that EO sold and sadly I paid $1500 for 0.5g.

Needless to say, I was underwhelmed at that price point. I was eventually able to sell it but definitely took a loss on it.

For $250 for 0.5g, I can live with it 🙂

So yeah, Im with you in saying it's likely the same oil.

The oils that I am 99% sure are the same are: Hainan, Brunei, Laos, Malinau, and men tian/myanmar kyara.

Hainan = royal kinam 2.0
Brunei = Brunei kinam
laos = pusong LTD
malinau = Borneo kinam
Men tian = men tian

Ceylon is really similar to Kyara ketone, but not exact from what I can recall from my memory. Ive owned both but it has been a few years since I put my nose on Kyara ketone to know for sure. Also the sandalwood is about 99% same as Santal Royale. I smelled both side by side and it was very difficult to detect any differences.

Also begs the question how much storage can affect an oil over time as well given that many of these distillations have aged a bit. Also begs the question of how much yarn EO was/is spinning with some of the framing and marketing of some of these oils.

They created and marinated the perception that all of their oils were these hand crafted, painstakingly curated artistic endeavors - which of course, some were. But not all.

A great example is some of the Sri Lankan oils they acted like they slaved away to distill, when in reality, were just purchased from Ali. So I would hazard a guess that a similar mechanic is true here with Fushigi. Sure, maybe they did collaborate on some distillations, but clearly he was just also a large wholesale customer for many of the oils as well.

Either way, Im content to pay a fraction of the price for oils of this caliber.
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Couldn't agree more bro. I don't believe a single word in that mans unnecessarily long exaggerated descriptions. Nothing but bullshit & marketing tactics & no matter how expensive an oil is he will convince you it's criminally underpriced lol
 
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