iori
親月
+1 =)
More than likely, the seller offers, a mix of genuine, and not so genuine product. Like Satan, half truths.
In my life, if there's enough doubt, I avoid it like my brother above said, I pretty much limit my purchases to the vendors here and others that have been recommended by my fellow OUDDICTS.
To be safe, avoid or take one for the team, check it out and let us know what you think,
In my life, if there's enough doubt, I avoid it like my brother above said, I pretty much limit my purchases to the vendors here and others that have been recommended by my fellow OUDDICTS.
To be safe, avoid or take one for the team, check it out and let us know what you think,
language scent
True Woodict
best case scenario i can see his kinam oil being some alcohol extracted kinam with some super chemical to make it smell much much stronger and probably a small mix of some agar oils. or just a pure attar of different essential oils that he calls pure kinam oil. i sense with my magical senses (LOL) that this guy may be using cheap essential oud oils from china or ebay and mixing them like pinches of salt with attars he creates to match the profile and then uses those bomb chemicals to make them loud.
One thing is 1000% for sure and true....he has dreams that he has been distilling oils and creating perfumes for royalty for 300+ years and this is why he claims it with such honesty and isnt ashamed to claim it on his website 😆 😆 😆 😆 or he just 0 moral compass.
Clyff6ix
Oud Fanatic
Hi All,
Not sure who I'm replying to here. But I just ordered from "The Perfumist" earlier today.
I'm a complete newbie to Oud and thus assumed most vendors with reviews etc. were legit. I googled "Oud Forum" about an hour ago trying to find additional and well-established vendors, which is how I came across both this thread and this forum.
Anyway, now I'm wondering if I should cancel my order after reading this thread:
https://www.ouddict.com/threads/a-call-to-all-the-perfumist-customers.1217/
Or alternatively, I could just let the transaction go through and send the oil onto someone here that can give it a proper assessment. Would anyone here be interested in that experiment? If so, reply and we'll figure out the details.
Here's what I bought: https://www.theperfumist.com/products/cambodian-royal-mix-cam-remarkable?variant=23626329587770
I've also attached a screenshot of my receipt.
P.S. I also bought an Organic Oud sampler from EO, which I hope will be a good introduction. I also bought stuff from SealedEssence and Fragnanimous. (Not trying to be promotional in any way!!). Any recommendations or notes of caution re: these or other vendors are greatly appreciated!
Not sure who I'm replying to here. But I just ordered from "The Perfumist" earlier today.
I'm a complete newbie to Oud and thus assumed most vendors with reviews etc. were legit. I googled "Oud Forum" about an hour ago trying to find additional and well-established vendors, which is how I came across both this thread and this forum.
Anyway, now I'm wondering if I should cancel my order after reading this thread:
https://www.ouddict.com/threads/a-call-to-all-the-perfumist-customers.1217/
Or alternatively, I could just let the transaction go through and send the oil onto someone here that can give it a proper assessment. Would anyone here be interested in that experiment? If so, reply and we'll figure out the details.
Here's what I bought: https://www.theperfumist.com/products/cambodian-royal-mix-cam-remarkable?variant=23626329587770
I've also attached a screenshot of my receipt.
P.S. I also bought an Organic Oud sampler from EO, which I hope will be a good introduction. I also bought stuff from SealedEssence and Fragnanimous. (Not trying to be promotional in any way!!). Any recommendations or notes of caution re: these or other vendors are greatly appreciated!
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DezireFrags
Banned
Drop shipping oils from India? 😂
Brahim_knows_nothing
True Ouddict
I say drop that order. Or, if you don't mind spending money, complete your purchase and have it as reference for what it is, as you build up your collection of better oils from trusted vendors here!
Clyff6ix
Oud Fanatic
Yeah. I thought that was odd. I'm interested to see where the order tracks from.
Clyff6ix
Oud Fanatic
I wondered about drop shipping.
Is this a common practice? I noticed that my order from Ensar (which has not yet arrived) shipped from Amman, Jordan. I thought he was headquartered in the UK?
Clyff6ix
Oud Fanatic
I think I'm inclined to just let it play out and see what happens. I'll post the results here and maybe try to contact JK DeLapp to see if he's curious enough to lend his expertise and check it out. He lives one state over.
Maybe it will put this saga to rest. Or even add a twist!
Thanks for the recommendation. I placed an order from Phoenix Rising last night. Looking forward to exploring other vendors on this thread 🙂
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Brahim_knows_nothing
True Ouddict
It's a safe game to play as you didn't venture in a big order. So not to break a sweat over it.
Rising phoenix is a great choice to start with. Looking forward for your feedback.
Happy hunting mate! 🤙
Rogi_Again
True Ouddict
Every order I’ve placed from Ensar has shipped from Jordan so I think that’s normal.
As for your questionable order, it’s up to you but I’d probably let it go through, see what he sends … either way, it’s more data. Good or bad.
But for future orders, I’d ask around here on the forum until you are comfortable asking other external vendors the right questions. There’s a lot of fake oud peddlers In the world today and their numbers are growing.
I haven’t had any issues with Sealed Essence or Frag but I’ve never ordered straight oud from either yet, my orders were for regular more mainstream fragrances.
Sealed Essence is a high-end reseller of limited artisanal perfumes and oils, totally legit. They don't have any of their own products.
I can't speak details but recently I talked to a prominent member of the frag community who's been threatened by this perfumist character. I'd steer as far away as possible but you've already got something coming, I'd let it play out to see if the investment not too much. Wonder if he reads here?
Clyff6ix
Oud Fanatic
Much appreciated
Clyff6ix
Oud Fanatic
I'd wondered that also. We'll see 🤷♂️
Clyff6ix
Oud Fanatic
Hi All,
The order arrived today. I had planned to send it unopened to @RisingPhoenix for assessment. But curiosity got the better of me. I broke the seal on the box, sampled the oil, and performed a rudimentary test inspired by Grandawood. Here are the results. Everyone is encouraged to draw their own conclusions. And I'm perfectly happy for my own credibility (or lack thereof) to be weighed as a variable within the broader context of the experiment.
Subjective Assessment:
The oil is not pure agarwood. Something has been added to give it olfactory enhancement. The enhancement makes the oil smell more like perfume than Oud Oil. To my nose, these olfactory additives smelled more like perfumes (synthetics) than oils distilled from natural materials. That said, I'm inexperienced. So I'll pass samples on to experts and report back with their assessments.
Objective Assessment:
Grandawood's (admittedly flawed) oud purity testing method:
My reproduction of the experiment with oud from The Perfumist:
Reference Photos:
The order arrived today. I had planned to send it unopened to @RisingPhoenix for assessment. But curiosity got the better of me. I broke the seal on the box, sampled the oil, and performed a rudimentary test inspired by Grandawood. Here are the results. Everyone is encouraged to draw their own conclusions. And I'm perfectly happy for my own credibility (or lack thereof) to be weighed as a variable within the broader context of the experiment.
Subjective Assessment:
The oil is not pure agarwood. Something has been added to give it olfactory enhancement. The enhancement makes the oil smell more like perfume than Oud Oil. To my nose, these olfactory additives smelled more like perfumes (synthetics) than oils distilled from natural materials. That said, I'm inexperienced. So I'll pass samples on to experts and report back with their assessments.
Objective Assessment:
Grandawood's (admittedly flawed) oud purity testing method:
Reference Photos:
Clyff6ix
Oud Fanatic
Rogi_Again
True Ouddict
While I don’t have a dog in this fight, I will say that I’ve seen some ouds sink in water and form bubbles throughout the glass… due to the density of the oud, filtering, distillation process, etc. In some cases, the water wasn’t 100% clear and little bubbles could be seen throughout the vial. I posted a thread on this (last year?) and all ouds were purchased from trusted vendors here.
The order you received may very well be a blend though. I think it’s a good idea to send it off for testing.
The order you received may very well be a blend though. I think it’s a good idea to send it off for testing.
R
Rename
Guest
I’d say if it’s smelling like a synthetic perfume … you have your answer.
Most folks once they get away from synthetics … when they do smell them - they stand out like a sore thumb.
