Wonderful descriptions of both. Gems is how I have described them as well.Raja Hijau 2 and Sultan Hijau, one in the morning, the other in the evening. I can clearly see why these two are wedded. Gem-like, fractal top notes of pine and pith, with a bit more fruits in Raja and more phenol in Sultan. Both would be amazing layered with Bandit. I'd also be curious what some rose might do, not that I would mix them in an attar though. Sultan ends up a little more leathery and is my preferred taste, as opposed to Raja, but both are tremendous.
Green fragrances are still a mystery to me; I'm finding that I can't quite tell whether I love them even if I enjoy them and keep getting more of them.
I think it's a different mountain range entirely, the description for that oil (I recognized the receipt, one of my favorite commercial oud houses) mentions the mountain range divides Thailand and Cambodia, so that would be the Dângrêk Mountains, which apparently is different from the Cardamom Mountains.Ok. He wrote back and I translated.here is the translation “ The Bentchat Mountains, which separate the Republic of Cambodia from the Kingdom of Thailand to the east”. This is already written in the website.
I did a google search of Bentchat Mountains and found a Wikipedia page titled “Chanthaburi Mountains”.
The section detailed reads: [The Chanthaburi Range forms a westward continuation of the Banthat Range (the section of the Cardamom Mountains forming the boundary between Thailand and Cambodia)].
I believe this to be what he is talking about. I don’t know why they mentioned Turkey to me. Apologies for the confusion.
I have that exact oil you’re referring to (first Brashin). Deep smoky and woody notes. Very enveloping. I have yet to discern the other notes you mentioned. Sometimes by applying repeatedly over several days it slowly reveals itself. The thabat (ثبات) or how long it lasts matters to me too. Sometimes certain types leave a peppery scent behind after main scent calms down. I love Malaysian varieties too. Very appealing scent.I think it's a different mountain range entirely, the description for that oil (I recognized the receipt, one of my favorite commercial oud houses) mentions the mountain range divides Thailand and Cambodia, so that would be the Dângrêk Mountains, which apparently is different from the Cardamom Mountains.
دهن عود جبال بنتشات is good oil, I revisited it earlier today when I saw your post (still need to do a side by side), I'm happy to hear the sprayable version was nice as well, I'm hesitant to order it due to DHL throwing a fit when sprayable perfumes are shipped. Oddly enough I find the oil quite similar to دهن عود مقتنيات 1980 minus the almost caramel like menthol you'll find in that one. I really adore the Trat Borai (دهن عود تراد بوراي) it's got this depth and smoke-y incense quality I never imagined a Thai oud could support. Another difference I find between the Chanthaburi (دهن عود جبال بنتشات) and the Trat Borai (دهن عود تراد بوراي) is the aromatic quality, slight herbal facets you'll find in the former, as compared to the latter. If you get a chance, try out the دهن عود براشين الاول (The First Prashin) oil, I find it has the aspect of the Trat Borai I adore but not as bitter as what's present there. It's like sweetened incense, with somehow like a grape or plum facet of it, it’s so so good!
The longevity or stability of an oil is something I take very seriously as well! I'd love to hear how you found that in the first Brashin, I find it some days to be a bit lacking, but I have to test it out more. If you like East Malaysian or Borneo oils, have you had a chance to try out دهن عود كنز الغابات القديمة (Treasure of the Old Forests) oil? It's an oil which kinda blew me away in terms of quality. He also has another Kalimantan (Pontinak) oil but that one, oddly enough smells like the scent of clothes fumigated with Maroke chips, I mean I'm not complaining but it's a different style.I have that exact oil you’re referring to (first Brashin). Deep smoky and woody notes. Very enveloping. I have yet to discern the other notes you mentioned. Sometimes by applying repeatedly over several days it slowly reveals itself. The thabat (ثبات) or how long it lasts matters to me too. Sometimes certain types leave a peppery scent behind after main scent calms down. I love Malaysian varieties too. Very appealing scent.
I have not tried Treasure of the Old Forest but I’ll add that to my acquisition list. I am not a fan of maroke (enhanced or natural) as it just doesn’t appeal to me. I hear a lot about Kalimantan here both oil and chips. But chips you really don’t know what you’re getting. Some of them say natural. But it ends up being muhassan.The longevity or stability of an oil is something I take very seriously as well! I'd love to hear how you found that in the first Brashin, I find it some days to be a bit lacking, but I have to test it out more. If you like East Malaysian or Borneo oils, have you had a chance to try out دهن عود كنز الغابات القديمة (Treasure of the Old Forests) oil? It's an oil which kinda blew me away in terms of quality. He also has another Kalimantan (Pontinak) oil but that one, oddly enough smells like the scent of clothes fumigated with Maroke chips, I mean I'm not complaining but it's a different style.
How does the strength of raja hijau compare to sultan? I have a small sample of sultan and found it to smell very nice with citrus floral and incense notes but it is overall a bit light in strength.Raja Hijau 2 and Sultan Hijau, one in the morning, the other in the evening. I can clearly see why these two are wedded. Gem-like, fractal top notes of pine and pith, with a bit more fruits in Raja and more phenol in Sultan. Both would be amazing layered with Bandit. I'd also be curious what some rose might do, not that I would mix them in an attar though. Sultan ends up a little more leathery and is my preferred taste, as opposed to Raja, but both are tremendous.
Green fragrances are still a mystery to me; I'm finding that I can't quite tell whether I love them even if I enjoy them and keep getting more of them.
I will have to try Jaya Qadeem as well! Do you get much of the "old book" description? I'm always a fan of those kind of antique notes.Wonderful descriptions of both. Gems is how I have described them as well.
Received my bottle of Jaya Qadeem today. Man I love these deep incense wood oils. They are literally perfumes. The complexity is off the charts!
I found both a bit light but I will have to spend more time with them. I often find that if a fragrance doesn't powerfully knock me out the first time then sometimes it takes me a few more wears to finally get a sense of its actual strength.How does the strength of raja hijau compare to sultan? I have a small sample of sultan and found it to smell very nice with citrus floral and incense notes but it is overall a bit light in strength.
100% I get the old book note. With Raja Hijau it can take a minute to present itself but when it does it really shines. I had put a swipe on yesterday morning, ( I was spending the day with my partner and this one in particular is the lightest oil I can wear around her without her wanting to cross the street) and I was still getting lovely wiffs of it by late evening.I will have to try Jaya Qadeem as well! Do you get much of the "old book" description? I'm always a fan of those kind of antique notes.
I found both a bit light but I will have to spend more time with them. I often find that if a fragrance doesn't powerfully knock me out the first time then sometimes it takes me a few more wears to finally get a sense of its actual strength.
Do you get a toasted butter, almost maple-y sweetness from Jaya Qadeem, it's not sugar-y sweet but this kinda essence of the wood? I recall that vividly when I first bought it and wore it a ton. In time though, it felt behind to another one of Habz's other oils, Turba which was straight up a Chameleon! I'll have to crack out Jaya Qadeem and not to mention, it's gotten remarkably cold here suddenly, so I need bring out Cambodi Smoke either tonight or in the next couple of days!Jaya Qadeem - Habzoud, Not a particulary thick oil, and deep deep red in colour. Projection isn't huge, a more subtle close to the skin scent. Might be better putting a dab on some clothing rather than skin or beard. Easily recognisable as a Grynops with that classic leather oudiness like Oud Said but this is much softer.
Hmm...not sure if they're words I would use. I kind of need a bit of it to smell much at all. I'm sitting in AC atm so that might be the cause. I'll re-evaluate when I go outside into some humidity.Do you get a toasted butter, almost maple-y sweetness from Jaya Qadeem, it's not sugar-y sweet but this kinda essence of the wood? I recall that vividly when I first bought it and wore it a ton. In time though, it felt behind to another one of Habz's other oils, Turba which was straight up a Chameleon! I'll have to crack out Jaya Qadeem and not to mention, it's gotten remarkably cold here suddenly, so I need bring out Cambodi Smoke either tonight or in the next couple of days!
On the site, the oils show the sizes as 1 gram or 3 grams. I converted to ml and it shows 1 to 1 (of course this is for water). How many ml would 1gm be or how many tola?I'm trying now an unreleased sample from Habzoud called Mai Kritsana. @Habz786 has great talent in showing us what can be done with Thai oils other than the usual super sweet type. As promised this is possibly a close contender for an Oud Boran runner up. Definitely sits comfortably in that arena.
This differs with each oil ,generally 1g is equivalent to 1ml ,but thicker oils might go lower.On the site, the oils show the sizes as 1 gram or 3 grams. I converted to ml and it shows 1 to 1 (of course this is for water). How many ml would 1gm be or how many tola?
I think a conversion tool should be added to the Artisans’ sites, specifically, gm/ml/tola. Even if 1/4 or 1/2 tola might make product appear more expensive i think its more convenient. It don’t think it would repel prospective buyers.This differs with each oil ,generally 1g is equivalent to 1ml ,but thicker oils might go lower.