Joe
Resident Artisan
If I could get my 'fumes to last 16 hours, I'd be very happy.
Oud of the Day
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Olfactory Nomad
Smells so Oud
Alamgir 1 - AlHindOud. I can't say enough good things about this Hindi. It layers perfectly with so many other ouds as well. My favourite for the year to date.
Joe
Resident Artisan
Love it. Like a waitress at a wings joint! Big bold and beautiful!
SamiterkiW
True Ouddict
Hello Ouddicts 🙂
Today I swiped Laos oils !
AA Royal Lao 🪵 👞💥💨😶🌫️🍋🍯
AA Lao 4k 🎆💣💥🍋⛽️
Sulaym HM Royal Laos SQ 🧀🍪👞💨🐑
AA Royal Lao got the very best part of the two world :
Vintage traditional smooth suede and light incense with the rich resinous Oudiness ! And the clean new gen sharp but rounded citrusy lemony cream with melon honey hay sweetness!
My absolute Favorite Laos oil ever !
AA Lao 4k is 100% clean new gen !
Fireworks opening ! Sharp and bright Fizzy lemon Terpenoids with petroleum Gasoline power !
Blue Berries coming with a special smooth suede during the dry down
Full clean 100% I still love this oil soo much after her Mother Royal Lao
HM Royal Laos is 100% Vintage !
Don’t expect dirty barn … this is the smoothest soothing barn you can find in a laos oil … Caramelish Butter & salt !
Kind of light cheesy smell but the appealing one ! Kind of Hay and honey Sidr ! You are riding a wild horse here … I can smell this oil is old… very old !
She is Kham Lao’s grandma !
I could think this oil is an amazing old Smooth Hindi !
Such oil ! I have to say this is one of the smoothest barn I have smelled… it is barn without barn ! Nothing offensive but so Satisfying …
These 3 oils are my top 3 Laos !
Today I swiped Laos oils !
AA Royal Lao 🪵 👞💥💨😶🌫️🍋🍯
AA Lao 4k 🎆💣💥🍋⛽️
Sulaym HM Royal Laos SQ 🧀🍪👞💨🐑
AA Royal Lao got the very best part of the two world :
Vintage traditional smooth suede and light incense with the rich resinous Oudiness ! And the clean new gen sharp but rounded citrusy lemony cream with melon honey hay sweetness!
My absolute Favorite Laos oil ever !
AA Lao 4k is 100% clean new gen !
Fireworks opening ! Sharp and bright Fizzy lemon Terpenoids with petroleum Gasoline power !
Blue Berries coming with a special smooth suede during the dry down
Full clean 100% I still love this oil soo much after her Mother Royal Lao
HM Royal Laos is 100% Vintage !
Don’t expect dirty barn … this is the smoothest soothing barn you can find in a laos oil … Caramelish Butter & salt !
Kind of light cheesy smell but the appealing one ! Kind of Hay and honey Sidr ! You are riding a wild horse here … I can smell this oil is old… very old !
She is Kham Lao’s grandma !
I could think this oil is an amazing old Smooth Hindi !
Such oil ! I have to say this is one of the smoothest barn I have smelled… it is barn without barn ! Nothing offensive but so Satisfying …
These 3 oils are my top 3 Laos !
Mr.P
oud<3er
Old fermented Lao sinensis (like the HM Royal Lao) is some wild stuff for sure, and so radically different from Lao crassna! I know what you mean about the cheese and I know what you mean about it coming across almost like an old Hindi. Genetically, sinensis is closer to agallocha than other species according to one genetic analysis that I reviewed so it doesn't surprise me that the fermented sinensis might come across like a Hindi. I have some fermented plantation sinensis from Yuzhi and it has some of the qualities of Hindi fermented oils for sure. A particular smooth chocolatey type of fermentation aroma.
SamiterkiW
True Ouddict
My dear brother I am glad you noticed that as well…
I already asked to know if someone noticed the similarities between Laos and Hindi oils …
For exemple To my nose Lao 4k drying down in a clean suede leather with berries that remind me Manipur Hindi oils … particularly EO Shuayb…
I remember I did a side by side few years ago and except the Opening of Top notes , the heart and base notes sharing similarities…
Laos got Crassna and Sinensis tree … that is maybe why I love this region so much !
Full Crassna isn’t my favorite Aquilaria species to be honest…
It is very hard for me to find a good Cambodian oil and even Thai (except South Thai) Subintegra seems to fits better with my taste …
Sinensis I love also but I didn’t tried enough wild Sinensis to be able to talking about it confidently…
I think Vietnam got both Sinensis and Crassna …?
Laos is my favorite region with Hindi followed by Malay & Borneo
The most Satisfying and meditative are Laos , Hindi … the most energizing are Malay and Borneo to my mind
Also I noticed recently something with Borneo Oils … they sharing similarities with Silani oils 😅 A lot to my nose !
Is anyone noticed this also ?
Is there an explanation?
Gyrinops available in Borneo?
Is Filaria , Hirta , Beccariana présent in Sri Lanka? I thought there were only Gyrinops there… are maybe these subspecies are cousin ?
Very curious about this …
Mr.P
oud<3er
We must have a similar taste - crassna oud also generally does not excite me very much, I also don't have any Thai oils that I would choose to wear even though I have accumulated quite a few hoping they would improve with age. (@mesOUD has made some wild crassna oils that are changing my mind however - deep complex multi layer etc.).
From what I have heard both Laos and Vietnam have crassna snd sinensis. I also would love to sample more wild sinensis oil.
I have seen absolutely striking similarities between borneo and silani oils for sure. The really fine specimens I have smelled are kind of shape shifters they start smelling like their own unique regional type but the base notes are just like some of my Borneos. I actually love that about those oils - the specimens I have from @AlHind Oud and @Habz786 really pleased me in terms of the surprise plot twist about halfway through the evaporation process.
mesOUD
Resident Artisan
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Honestly, “Borneo” does nothing but create confusion for me.
Borneo currently spans three countries and contains many different varieties.
Even when they are the same species, each has its own unique profile.
For example, a Malaccensis from the Sabah region is very different from one from Sarawak, Brunei, or Sintang.
Similarly, a Microcarpa from Tarakan, while sharing some similarities, is still different from a Microcarpa from Malinao.
I believe that instead of saying “Borneo,” we should specify the exact and specific region.
Anything else is just unnecessary confusion in my opinion.
Lately, the word “Borneo” has started to feel meaningless to me, just like the word “Kinam.”
Honestly, “Borneo” does nothing but create confusion for me.
Borneo currently spans three countries and contains many different varieties.
Even when they are the same species, each has its own unique profile.
For example, a Malaccensis from the Sabah region is very different from one from Sarawak, Brunei, or Sintang.
Similarly, a Microcarpa from Tarakan, while sharing some similarities, is still different from a Microcarpa from Malinao.
I believe that instead of saying “Borneo,” we should specify the exact and specific region.
Anything else is just unnecessary confusion in my opinion.
Mr.P
oud<3er
A very good point, in my case part of the problem is that many of my specimens come from a time where details were not shared as readily, so I have over the years received a number of oils that were simply called "Borneo" without any further information. I don't have any kind of understanding of the relationship between the region of Borneo and the characteristics of the aroma.
In the case of the oils from Sri Lanka, I think they remind me of some (not all) of my oils said to be from Malinau addition to a couple of my unspecified "Borneo" oils
SamiterkiW
True Ouddict
Same here bro…
I have “Borneo” oil without so much information, i have smelled few Malinau which i think comes from there …
I smelled Sabah , Tarakan , Kalimantan Bruneï… but again I found they sharing similarities…
Borneo is probably one of my favorite place where I traveled… and it is also for Oud … maybe the diversity of different species gives a specific Character to the final result …
The deep wild jungles from North to south & west to Est with the endemic fauna & flora can playing a big role …
I’ve heard the same tree from same species at few kilometers can smell totally different because of the wildlife neighborhood …
It is probably same for other countries maybe ?
Why in Sumatra Island for exemple , there isn’t as much different species than Borneo island ?
Is it because of the geologic floor or Climate ?
Other questions coming, is it possible to find hybrid between Aquilaria subspecies? Hirta pollinate Filaria ?
Also is there special Region where Aquilaria are more naturally infected than everywhere else?
LasLunas
True Ouddict
Yikes!
Mr.P
oud<3er
I too wonder about cross pollination, and subspecies, and how much is known about gene flow among the different types of agarwood out there
mesOUD
Resident Artisan
A guy in Thailand
İ forgot his name,he had his own supspeices
LasLunas
True Ouddict
Several large studies have been conducted concerning species, hybridization, etc.,
Available at PubMed and Research Gate ; check DNA Barcodes for Aquilaria species.
Technical data, specific markers sequenced to determine species and assign "barcodes" primarily to track trading, salient info for the curious....
Available at PubMed and Research Gate ; check DNA Barcodes for Aquilaria species.
Technical data, specific markers sequenced to determine species and assign "barcodes" primarily to track trading, salient info for the curious....
LasLunas
True Ouddict
My introduction to Oudh oils has not been typical, it was purely analyses of samples for a client. I did find a few to be pleasing to me but had no idea of source, location, species etc..
To jump in and attempt to digest so many subjective opinions and thoughts on a single subject is by no means an easy go for me as I am used to hard date, mathematical analyses, etc.....
I can only decide if an aroma is pleasing to me after I experience a composition, honestly have not been able to set up a flow chart for myself based on experiences of other purveyors.
I ask for patience and understanding when I ask what appear to be "foolish, amateur" questions. Time is required for assimilation of experiences prior to formulating an opinion I consider to be valid for myself.
While I enjoy reading the poetic descriptions of the Oudh oils and perfumes an incense everyone records so eloquently, to be honest it makes me feel like I am trying to read "Beowulf" in original form.
I may be slow on the uptake of descriptors commonly utilized, but when I truly enjoy an aroma I know it, yet this is not mutually exclusive when considering appreciation of the thoughtfulness and labor that was required for each and every quality product.
None of my comments carry malicious intent, I am simply obsessively curious.
Thank you for your patience in advance.
To jump in and attempt to digest so many subjective opinions and thoughts on a single subject is by no means an easy go for me as I am used to hard date, mathematical analyses, etc.....
I can only decide if an aroma is pleasing to me after I experience a composition, honestly have not been able to set up a flow chart for myself based on experiences of other purveyors.
I ask for patience and understanding when I ask what appear to be "foolish, amateur" questions. Time is required for assimilation of experiences prior to formulating an opinion I consider to be valid for myself.
While I enjoy reading the poetic descriptions of the Oudh oils and perfumes an incense everyone records so eloquently, to be honest it makes me feel like I am trying to read "Beowulf" in original form.
I may be slow on the uptake of descriptors commonly utilized, but when I truly enjoy an aroma I know it, yet this is not mutually exclusive when considering appreciation of the thoughtfulness and labor that was required for each and every quality product.
None of my comments carry malicious intent, I am simply obsessively curious.
Thank you for your patience in advance.
Mr.P
oud<3er
I have version 2 of Zamrad, it's a nice rich oil and one that I have stashed in the "good stuff" box. 🙂
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