Does AA ever make oils that are dark, musky, and super thick and incense heavy. I know he did a much of Malays recently - just curious because I've been getting the impression that the majority of his oils are very "thin" and top heavy. Great aromas - but even on his site, he says that when he distills, he aims to only get the oil and avoids and waxes or lipids - that's why his Gen 3 or 4 (whatever that all means) oils are all very thin. In one of his blog posts, he actually states this and says that with his oils more than other oud oils, you really don't want to smear it around your skin and emphasizes that you really just want to gently dab once or twice to avoid killing part of the aroma. I'd have to search for the post he made, but that's the gist I got. He was saying how since oud is so expensive it's important that the oil only contains the agarwood oil and no lipds or fats or whatever and that's why his stuff is priced higher because you are paying for only the oil. But I've heard elsewhere that those other lipids and some waxes can actually help to keep the oil on your skin longer and help with the practical application of wearing the oil.

I've heard nothing but good things about the aroma quality - but continue to hear they are very delicate oils. I do think it's cool that his goal is to mimic the smell of room temperature or gently heated wood and not add any auxiliary notes in the distillation process, but when I think of those things, I think of a delicate aroma vs other ouds that might take a departure from the aroma of the actual chips, adding in other notes and creating more of a complex perfume. That seems to be an opposing philosophy or school of thought (in the letters from Ensar and Taha) - that is, create an oil where the sum is greater than any of it's parts - so rather than smelling like the gently heated chips the oil was made from, it actually adds to it and creates a new smell/aroma.

For me, when I think of oils that smell like unheated chips that it's from - I think of C02 oils. I had always thought the advantage of the painstaking process of hydro distillation was to create something greater than the sum of it's parts. Maybe I should just try a sample pack of some of his oils. Getting back to my initial thought, has AA ever produced an oil with the same power and density of oils like yasuke from LMK, or Ghaith from ASO? Those are just two that come to mind when I think of SUPER terpy and heavy heavy aromas (vs. lighter profiles like a muhib).

Today - Al Hashimi Kelatan, I smell this and I think PINK! pink fizzy soda and tropical drinks with powdery finish. Feel like it would be fun to add some white ambergris to this and let it chill for a year!
 
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This is an interesting perception - and I've heard many of the same concerns. I do have a few AA oils - a good variety including Luang (Thai), Sik group (Mulia, Cintaku, Sayangku, Malay Special K) and the Sumatra's (Royal Sumatra, Suka Cita). Some are more viscous than others - but I have to say that Silage on all of these is top rate - 8-12hrs +

We have a Hot Tub, and I will take a soak and shower in the evening - still being able to smell the dry down after on AA oils. Chemically speaking, I do not fully understand the benefits of waxes and lipids. I've heard that they can be beneficial for longevity of an oil if you wanted to keep it for say 20 years. But again - only speculation.

For me, Taha's oils are pure nose candy - they are loud upon application and tend to align with the 'typical' scents from the region or locale. Differentiation to me is in the grade of raw materials - his higher level oils will hit me in the face upon application and then take me for a ride as the top notes subside and the dry down begins. I've found that the dry down on these oils really tends to speak to the region or locale of wood he used in distillation. I wouldn't say that this dry down smells like unheated chips - but rather, like the smell of the oil itself in the wood as it is heated. Gen 3 IMHO is the style of heating he prefers to minimize the burning smell of wood particles and to best try to only capture the 'good/oud' smell when burning woods.

I have not tried Yasuke from LMK or Ghaith from ASO but I do have some high level EO oils as well as couple heavy hitters from Habz and believe that despite Taha's unique distillation strategy, he has oils that are thicker than others as well as some that are darker smelling, more green, jungly and opposite - depends on locale and grade of materials. I recommend, if you're to try some of his oils, to reach into at least Mid tier or higher for the proper experience.

Phan Fa is a darker jungly - leathery dry down Thai oil
Kencana is a green, almost smoky, incensy Borneo
I don't have Jerai - but have heard its darker
Hulubalang is a Dark, Green Malay oil

I've only been around the Oud scene for a year or so - there are probably many more that I have never smelled that are on the darker side.

Here's the link to Phan Fa - Taha calls it Dark and Jungly - who knows, maybe this is as Dark as he goes - someone else can chime in.

https://agaraura.com/phanfa.html?mc_cid=293126495c&mc_eid=6b39dcc6e6

Yasuke - this is China oil right?
 
This is an interesting perception - and I've heard many of the same concerns. I do have a few AA oils - a good variety including Luang (Thai), Sik group (Mulia, Cintaku, Sayangku, Malay Special K) and the Sumatra's (Royal Sumatra, Suka Cita). Some are more viscous than others - but I have to say that Silage on all of these is top rate - 8-12hrs +

We have a Hot Tub, and I will take a soak and shower in the evening - still being able to smell the dry down after on AA oils. Chemically speaking, I do not fully understand the benefits of waxes and lipids. I've heard that they can be beneficial for longevity of an oil if you wanted to keep it for say 20 years. But again - only speculation.

For me, Taha's oils are pure nose candy - they are loud upon application and tend to align with the 'typical' scents from the region or locale. Differentiation to me is in the grade of raw materials - his higher level oils will hit me in the face upon application and then take me for a ride as the top notes subside and the dry down begins. I've found that the dry down on these oils really tends to speak to the region or locale of wood he used in distillation. I wouldn't say that this dry down smells like unheated chips - but rather, like the smell of the oil itself in the wood as it is heated. Gen 3 IMHO is the style of heating he prefers to minimize the burning smell of wood particles and to best try to only capture the 'good/oud' smell when burning woods.

I have not tried Yasuke from LMK or Ghaith from ASO but I do have some high level EO oils as well as couple heavy hitters from Habz and believe that despite Taha's unique distillation strategy, he has oils that are thicker than others as well as some that are darker smelling, more green, jungly and opposite - depends on locale and grade of materials. I recommend, if you're to try some of his oils, to reach into at least Mid tier or higher for the proper experience.

Phan Fa is a darker jungly - leathery dry down Thai oil
Kencana is a green, almost smoky, incensy Borneo
I don't have Jerai - but have heard its darker
Hulubalang is a Dark, Green Malay oil

I've only been around the Oud scene for a year or so - there are probably many more that I have never smelled that are on the darker side.

Here's the link to Phan Fa - Taha calls it Dark and Jungly - who knows, maybe this is as Dark as he goes - someone else can chime in.

https://agaraura.com/phanfa.html?mc_cid=293126495c&mc_eid=6b39dcc6e6

Yasuke - this is China oil right?

Great write up! Yasuke was an instant sell out Malay oil with a dark profile - thinner oil but with a heavy tobacco, incense, maybe slightly petrol "staining" camphor and amber quality. For me this is as dark as you can get but with a clear line not going smokey. It's a Malaysian oil for sure - but imo, not the typical cola note. Ghaith I thought was Malay too but could be wrong on that.

Repeating myself a bit so apologies but just my train of thought. I think the reason I feel habZouds Nasir is such a perfectly balanced oil is that it is like kettle . Not in aroma at all. But the nature of it is sweet and spicey at the same time. Maybe a bad analogy. But I think the Malay portion adds the spice and the fili adds that candied sweetness. Together with lots of base and oudiness - it's just a totally regal oil. I heard dilum from Al hashimi was similar. I think it's safe to say that folks really like that combo. It's like Chinese and Hindi codistillations or blends. Peanut butter and jelly. Chocolate and vanilla. Mango and sticky . Just a natural fit

If you had to pick one oil for the rest of your life, what would it be?!
 
Great write up! Yasuke was an instant sell out Malay oil with a dark profile - thinner oil but with a heavy tobacco, incense, maybe slightly petrol "staining" camphor and amber quality. For me this is as dark as you can get but with a clear line not going smokey. It's a Malaysian oil for sure - but imo, not the typical cola note. Ghaith I thought was Malay too but could be wrong on that.

Repeating myself a bit so apologies but just my train of thought. I think the reason I feel habZouds Nasir is such a perfectly balanced oil is that it is like kettle . Not in aroma at all. But the nature of it is sweet and spicey at the same time. Maybe a bad analogy. But I think the Malay portion adds the spice and the fili adds that candied sweetness. Together with lots of base and oudiness - it's just a totally regal oil. I heard dilum from Al hashimi was similar. I think it's safe to say that folks really like that combo. It's like Chinese and Hindi codistillations or blends. Peanut butter and jelly. Chocolate and vanilla. Mango and sticky . Just a natural fit

If you had to pick one oil for the rest of your life, what would it be?!

Ah Man - thats a helluva question! I dont think I could pick just one oil. But for me, it would most likely be a dark, green, jungly, liquory, fennel, foresty Papua/Jaya Oil. But this will change in a month :Roflmao::Roflmao::Roflmao::Roflmao:

I remember reading about Yasuke now - yeah, that one looked good - I really need to do more samples.

Spicy is good - someone needs to do a ranking of all oils released in the past year haha - I saw one floating around a while back - mostly with EO oils, but it would be good to have a universal database.
 
Great write up! Yasuke was an instant sell out Malay oil with a dark profile - thinner oil but with a heavy tobacco, incense, maybe slightly petrol "staining" camphor and amber quality. For me this is as dark as you can get but with a clear line not going smokey. It's a Malaysian oil for sure - but imo, not the typical cola note. Ghaith I thought was Malay too but could be wrong on that.

Repeating myself a bit so apologies but just my train of thought. I think the reason I feel habZouds Nasir is such a perfectly balanced oil is that it is like kettle . Not in aroma at all. But the nature of it is sweet and spicey at the same time. Maybe a bad analogy. But I think the Malay portion adds the spice and the fili adds that candied sweetness. Together with lots of base and oudiness - it's just a totally regal oil. I heard dilum from Al hashimi was similar. I think it's safe to say that folks really like that combo. It's like Chinese and Hindi codistillations or blends. Peanut butter and jelly. Chocolate and vanilla. Mango and sticky . Just a natural fit

If you had to pick one oil for the rest of your life, what would it be?!
Hey Andrew

I would second what Jeff wrote above.

I would highly recommend you sample some of his oils to actually compare and see if this is the kind of distillation you seek.

Because Oud according to me is based on a person's experience and I dont think its necessary if something X likes Y also have to approve of.

So like I mentioned above be your best judge on AA oils by sampling them. Speak to Taha his WhatsApp number and email is mention on his website.. he will guide you and recommend oils according to what you seek.

Hope I was helpful buddy... cheers!!

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Hey Andrew

I would second what Jeff wrote above.

I would highly recommend you sample some of his oils to actually compare and see if this is the kind of distillation you seek.

Because Oud according to me is based on a person's experience and I dont think its necessary if something X likes Y also have to approve of.

So like I mentioned above be your best judge on AA oils by sampling them. Speak to Taha his WhatsApp number and email is mention on his website.. he will guide you and recommend oils according to what you seek.

Hope I was helpful buddy... cheers!!

Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

Thats good advice Dan!

Cheers - Happy Friday All!
 
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3rd blind smelling from Al Hashimi.
this one is very close to a skin scent, quite hard to pick out the scent even I applied a big healthy swipe.
I don't have the right word to describe this one but the closest word would be 'maple leaf'... I guess.
and it also has some fruit quality. what an interesting oud oil!
it's a very unique scent profile that I've never smelt before. projection is a bit disappointing but the scent is very addictive and pleasant.
I guess it's Kakaya...?
 
Good morning 🙂
today we have rainy weather and it's actually cold for (almost) a summer day. I started the morning with "HAREER" by ASO and black coffee. And you know what? Everything fits perfect together; the weather, the coffee and the oil as it is like (nutty) dark chocolate for breakfast (not too sweet, not too bitter). The oil is thick and rich as all of ASOs oils are so which I had the chance to try. As the oil develops and the sillage fills the room, its getting warmer. Yes, honey and leather are also flattering the scent. Looking forward to listen to the whole story of this oil... the story must go on! 🙂
Have a nice smelling and relaxing day my friends!
 
Hi there !

Well, it's not about fat the last and the only fatty oil I released was the Noir Velours few years ago lol.

A fatty oil will solidify a bit at lower temperatures (according to the fat quantity inside).

According to the cooking temperature, you will get more or less volatile compounds.

It's not LMK taste to grab only the most volatile compounds only.

The difficulty I had with the Yasuke was to adapt the temperature curves according to the pot size I was able to rent (wich needed more wood to respect the normal ratio wood/water).

It was quite a hard task to manage it at distance (trying to not get a 10ml distillation only on a side and breaking the condenser on another side if maintaining higher temperatures for a too long time especially when the pot doesn't belong to you). I've already lost thousands usd on my previous attempt having delt with a crook (CF : inside la Maison Khenata post to look at my first attempt of the Yasuke).

Well, it ended smoky after the distillation and needed a curing period.

This done, I needed to put it on the store to not let it empty but if I had waited 6 months aging, the Yasuke would have been greener and less dark.

At the end of distillation, the Yasuke was runny oil, it get a bit ticker with few aging.

I don't know exactly how others distil, the only thing I know is the more you apply only low temperatures curves, the longer is the distillation (according also to the wood grade and how you hope to grab more oil from it) but the shorter is the curing period (sometimes even not, just water removing is needed). Since this is done, your oil is ready to be on the store.

A fresh oil will be full of playful top notes, they tend to behave more gently with a bit of aging.

I personally do my best to let the oils age as long as I can but sometimes I'm pushed to put them on the store to not let it empty too long, sometimes I put an oil that I didn't directed to not let it empty.

@Andrew Salkin bro you'll get your package soon.

I put a sample of the unreleased Tian Long inside. You will see that it's a top notes centred type of Oud (but not only lol).

Few months ago, it was runny and more bitter and now it's a thicker oil and a bit sweeter.:Thumbsup:
 
I’m not an oud expert, but really digging AA Luang. And it has great longevity. I applied a small swipe 24 hours ago, and can still smell it’s residue on my skin after s sweaty workout and shower this morning. Thank you to those on this forum who gave me the inspiration to try it in your sharing about it.
 
I’m not an oud expert, but really digging AA Luang. And it has great longevity. I applied a small swipe 24 hours ago, and can still smell it’s residue on my skin after s sweaty workout and shower this morning. Thank you to those on this forum who gave me the inspiration to try it in your sharing about it.

AA Luang is awesome - it’s my favorite Thai oil, there aren’t many others I’ve found to enjoy as much as it! Longevity for Luang is also off the charts - it is a thicker, more viscous oil - I wonder if this helps it last 24 hrs!

This has inspired my swipe of the morning - AA Luang!
 
Those with expensive sandalwood bangles locked away you can’t wear because they will lose their smell, do not lose hope! They become good carriers of whatever oil you are wearing and if you can get over the offense of tarnishing the integrity of some sandalwood beads, putting a drop of rose or musk or oud on the beads is a nice thing since the pores soak it up and release slowly.
Thanks for sharing. Much beneficial for me.
 
ASO Mustaqbil - the perfect summer scent. It's not too heavy and musky or dark and incensey. On a hot day, those are not oud characteristics I want. Like I'd never swipe twr then go out in 90 degree weather. Those are oils for sitting inside on colder days imo.

Mustaqbil is green and vibrant. Pulsing green candy and incense. Sweet and spicey but that kinda vetivery type tonality you get with greener oils. I love it. Now thinking I want a full bottle bc this is the kinda oil I want others to smell on me! Whoever mentioned putting oil behind their ears is a genius. Smells great!

Does anyone where frankincense oil neat as a perfume? I feel like dabbing on some frankinscence with sandalwood and vetiver with ambergris - just a simple attar would be another fabulous summer scent.
 
I wear frankincense neat but it never quite hits the spot. I always wish it was a little different.
 
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