Attar/Mukhallat of the Day
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Tauhid Shaikh
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Will let you know, sample should be on the way soon
Mr.P
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Definitely get samples because some of you it sounds like have much more experience with jasmine oils from a variety of sources. It is such a complex oil and can really come across very differently to different people due for example to varying sensitivities to indole among other things.
When any of you do get a sample, I would love to read your impressions either here or via private message.
When any of you do get a sample, I would love to read your impressions either here or via private message.
Mr.P
oud<3er
Next up I hope would be a Robertet oil. I donāt know if this is a fact, but I read once that the entirety of Robertetās French Jasmine harvest is pre-purchased by various corporations and none ever actually makes it to the typical wholesalers and retailers. So I am expecting the only jasmine I will find from them is one from some other geographic origin like India or Egypt. Still, to be able to buy jasmine from a company with the caliber of buyers and market access that they have is an exciting thought.
I would love to get my hands on a select grade of jasmine from Morocco. The four absolutes that I have sampled from that region were all really appealing.
I would love to get my hands on a select grade of jasmine from Morocco. The four absolutes that I have sampled from that region were all really appealing.
@RisingPhoenix Order arrived today, and the hit with the family (they all loved it!) Was the sample of Majmua (loving the floral notes, done well.) Just placed an order for more (among others.)
Tauhid Shaikh
True Ouddict
Ward Lab Egyptian Jasmine Abs on the left and Eden Botanicals Egyptian Jasmine Abs on the right.
Musk Rahil
True Ouddict
i tried juhi (sample) from EO
very different from other Jasmine i own or used
Juhi was like strong wild (BROWN COLOUR)
very different from other Jasmine i own or used
Juhi was like strong wild (BROWN COLOUR)
Al Shareef Oudh
Master Perfumer
Mr P has a good nose for jasmine.
Mr.P
oud<3er
Hey, thanks for that!
Juhi is a wild one. I have smelled a concrete and absolute and have distilled juhi oil from the concrete. Very weird and wild type of jasmine - nothing like grandiflorum but wonderful in its own right and with a gardenia nuance buried in there that is quite nice.
Juhi is a wild one. I have smelled a concrete and absolute and have distilled juhi oil from the concrete. Very weird and wild type of jasmine - nothing like grandiflorum but wonderful in its own right and with a gardenia nuance buried in there that is quite nice.
Mr.P
oud<3er
Am wearing Camden Grey Egyptian jasmine on one wrist and Peyan Bertrand on the other. The Camden gray resembles the general category of Egyptian jasmine Iām used to encountering, and seemed above average to me. Its top note had a bit of the green stem / Violet leaf note but it is milder than some others and as a result the sweet fruity floral candy aspects are a little more prominent. Iām used to getting what seems like a faint gasoline smell from oils like this (although donāt believe it could literally be residual hexane or anything). Whatever the reason, itās something that comes out in some absolutes and the Camden oil has a little bit of that gas note in the top.
The Bertrand oil has none of the violet leaf or sweet/sour layers of the Camden Grey oil and lacks the faint gasoline layer.
Its top note has a lot of complexity and is multilayered but what stands out is in terms of these fresh yet deep undulating floral waves and this one unique resonant āthingā that jasmine does to my olfactory system - thereās also a certain perfectly integrated scintillating tanginess that is captivating.
Over time, the Camden grey oil exhibits a certain bright fresh fruity jasmine aspect with a really up front polleny sweetness and green banana thing and jasmine wax notes.
The Bertrand oil develops along a different trajectory, it is a dense jammy jasmine that is again intensely floral in a deep multilayered way when sniffed a little more deeply.
By the way are you all aware that Eden is now owned by and a retail outlet for Biolandes? I meant to post that here I canāt remember if I did or not. I donāt know the exact details, but I was reading a blog posted by Eden botanicals laying out the change. This is good news for anybody interested in organically cultivated oils in particular.
The Bertrand oil has none of the violet leaf or sweet/sour layers of the Camden Grey oil and lacks the faint gasoline layer.
Its top note has a lot of complexity and is multilayered but what stands out is in terms of these fresh yet deep undulating floral waves and this one unique resonant āthingā that jasmine does to my olfactory system - thereās also a certain perfectly integrated scintillating tanginess that is captivating.
Over time, the Camden grey oil exhibits a certain bright fresh fruity jasmine aspect with a really up front polleny sweetness and green banana thing and jasmine wax notes.
The Bertrand oil develops along a different trajectory, it is a dense jammy jasmine that is again intensely floral in a deep multilayered way when sniffed a little more deeply.
By the way are you all aware that Eden is now owned by and a retail outlet for Biolandes? I meant to post that here I canāt remember if I did or not. I donāt know the exact details, but I was reading a blog posted by Eden botanicals laying out the change. This is good news for anybody interested in organically cultivated oils in particular.
Taesik Yun
Attar Yun
wardlab
Oud Fan
Mr.P
oud<3er
I am wearing a swipe of a āflorasolā extract of Indian jasmine flowers. Florasols are a one step extraction process using an odorless gas/fluid that is more or less what is used as propellant in asthma inhalers. Very benign material that rapidly boils off at low temperatures and is easily recovered.
The smell is akin to an absolute as is the appearance and silage and anyone who has smelled Indian Jasmine absolute would immediately recognize this is something similar. I wish someone would make more of this stuff it is star of my collection and I donāt know how long it can stay smelling great for. Very balanced fruity candy and floral notes with no overwhelming or cloying aspects. Reminds me a bit of a sample of grasse enfleurage Jasmine I got many years ago. Similar but that Grasse oil was on another level.
The Grasse jasmine stood out, not in terms of smelling totally different, but in terms of the relative intensities of all of the various nuances of jasmine being in an especially pleasing balance - just delicious
The smell is akin to an absolute as is the appearance and silage and anyone who has smelled Indian Jasmine absolute would immediately recognize this is something similar. I wish someone would make more of this stuff it is star of my collection and I donāt know how long it can stay smelling great for. Very balanced fruity candy and floral notes with no overwhelming or cloying aspects. Reminds me a bit of a sample of grasse enfleurage Jasmine I got many years ago. Similar but that Grasse oil was on another level.
The Grasse jasmine stood out, not in terms of smelling totally different, but in terms of the relative intensities of all of the various nuances of jasmine being in an especially pleasing balance - just delicious
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Bilal
True Ouddict
+1 to this. An absolute monster of a musk perfume and has shades of Mongolian Mriga , Mousse Illuminee + your traditional musk dominant attar. Haven't worn it enough to delve further, but it maybe my favourite musk dominant perfume as of right now.
SOTD: Ghaliyah 2023 by Elixir Attar.
The rose was really prominent on my skin when I first wore this (which I wasn't a fan of) but it has really smoothed out in the last few weeks as the oxygen in the vial played its role. The shimmering quality of the ambergris really starts to shine through amongst the notes of a sweet Arabian bakhoor scent. Reminds me a little of Sheikh Al Faransi Blend but with the musk dialled up a few notches whilst retaining a similar level of sweetness.
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Mr.P
oud<3er
Geranium Absolute from Pierre Chauvet. 22 years old, for better it for worse. Pierre Chauvet is no more, sadly, they were pioneers in extraction but the biz was absorbed in some conglomerate maybe 10-15 years ago. Dark green oil, classic fresh geranium scent but soft and rounded and less shrieking in its presence. Iām not a geranium fan, but this is a nice fragrance as far as straight up geranium goes, and would be useful in a composition. I could see myself wearing this as a natural fragrance whereas the essential oil is just way too cloying because of the sulfur rich compounds that give geranium its character and unusual punch.
Layered this with a little alteya rose otto and it makes a nice fat fuzzy rose scent that is quite nice.
Layered this with a little alteya rose otto and it makes a nice fat fuzzy rose scent that is quite nice.
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Musk Rahil
True Ouddict
Hindi tabac
Agarwood assam
Man this oil reminds of india ,tobacco sellers have this smell near him and his shop always and mostly every seller,
Never knew it can be a beast in form of oil which zakir created
Incredible oil never to be found similar to any other tabacs,
A real tobacco of india
if anyone owns a bottle he is lucky
I wish they create similar stuff as they did in past release
Agarwood assam
Man this oil reminds of india ,tobacco sellers have this smell near him and his shop always and mostly every seller,
Never knew it can be a beast in form of oil which zakir created
Incredible oil never to be found similar to any other tabacs,
A real tobacco of india
if anyone owns a bottle he is lucky
I wish they create similar stuff as they did in past release
Mr.P
oud<3er
Iāve been blissing out on the new batch of Payan Bertrand jasmine oil I got this week. like any absolute itās a raw material, a diamond in the rough, but this one is really a charming oil. My experience with the jasmine absolute on the retail market is that they generally smell ok, but have off notes: slightly fermented or sour/cloying top notes, dull top notes, heavy mothball, violet leaf green notes, cat-scat indole overdose, heavy waxy note, or have an overly simple linear profile. This oil to my nose lacks any of those flaws and is extremely complex and multilayered. The fragrance is not only very pleasant, but it is also interesting. Thereās a lot going on.
Normally consumers donāt have access to these kind of materials. I donāt know if any of you have ever tried ordering from the āmastersā in Grasse, south of France, etc.. but without a business license and a lot of money itās hard to even get the attention of their reps. I once connected with a nice person who was the US point person for one of the smaller Grasse oil manufactures / importers who helped me out. I was never able to meet their minimum orders, and their fee for decanting an oil into a bottle was close to $100. That bottle could be a gallon or a gram if you wanted but whatever size it was, you generally had to pay 100 bucks plus the cost of the oil. With bigger orders, they did not charge that fee I think.
What the rep did was let me know when some business was ordering a large batch of an oil I wanted, and then she would include my order with that larger one and send it to me when it arrived.
She had no financial incentive to do this because what I was purchasing was so tiny compared to their usual clients. Just a nice person trying to help me out.
These guys have serious market access and very trained noses and get first dibs on all the really good crops. Itās really nice that thereās a business that specializes in getting their products to consumers.
Normally consumers donāt have access to these kind of materials. I donāt know if any of you have ever tried ordering from the āmastersā in Grasse, south of France, etc.. but without a business license and a lot of money itās hard to even get the attention of their reps. I once connected with a nice person who was the US point person for one of the smaller Grasse oil manufactures / importers who helped me out. I was never able to meet their minimum orders, and their fee for decanting an oil into a bottle was close to $100. That bottle could be a gallon or a gram if you wanted but whatever size it was, you generally had to pay 100 bucks plus the cost of the oil. With bigger orders, they did not charge that fee I think.
What the rep did was let me know when some business was ordering a large batch of an oil I wanted, and then she would include my order with that larger one and send it to me when it arrived.
She had no financial incentive to do this because what I was purchasing was so tiny compared to their usual clients. Just a nice person trying to help me out.
These guys have serious market access and very trained noses and get first dibs on all the really good crops. Itās really nice that thereās a business that specializes in getting their products to consumers.
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It's legit good. Should have got a 6ml of it
Mr.P
oud<3er
Today it is jasmine enfleurage from Grasse. In the late 90s it was possible to get small bottles of this finest of jasmines. All I have left is a small amount that was diluted in alcohol. Delicious Jasmine, makes the best absolutes seem crude. Very clean, fresh floral, the delightful fruity Jasmine heart and balanced perfume in its own right.
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