Oud of the Day

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[Olfactory Nomad]

That is a good point too, I suppose. A blend of two ouds is still usually considered pure oud. 50%oud+50%oud=100%oud

It's also just very common practice. A lot of Ensar's Organic oils are blends of more than one oud oil.

And even if it's distilled, you probably got the wood from more than one tree, therefore that's also a blend.

I know that sounds a little bit silly, but some attars are actually just codistillations of more than one ingredient together. For example Al Hind Oud did a codistillation of Cultivated Kinam and Sandalwood and I would call that an attar. I think I heard somewhere that the traditional way of making an attar in India was to distill some different ingredient together like that.

So if two different ouds are going to be considered two different ingredients then technically a distillation of wood from different trees together should also be called an attar.

But that is just the way that language is. Our categorizations are not exact, but we use whatever word gets the message across. I'd say just enjoy the forum and be mindful of where you're posting and who will read it. I use pure oud 99% of the time but I am actually interested in the blend that you mentioned, so in my mind that post belongs here.

That's all super interesting, thank you. 🙂

 

[Zubayr]

That is a good point too, I suppose. A blend of two ouds is still usually considered pure oud. 50%oud+50%oud=100%oud

It's also just very common practice. A lot of Ensar's Organic oils are blends of more than one oud oil.

And even if it's distilled, you probably got the wood from more than one tree, therefore that's also a blend.

I know that sounds a little bit silly, but some attars are actually just codistillations of more than one ingredient together. For example Al Hind Oud did a codistillation of Cultivated Kinam and Sandalwood and I would call that an attar. I think I heard somewhere that the traditional way of making an attar in India was to distill some different ingredient together like that.

So if two different ouds are going to be considered two different ingredients then technically a distillation of wood from different trees together should also be called an attar.

But that is just the way that language is. Our categorizations are not exact, but we use whatever word gets the message across. I'd say just enjoy the forum and be mindful of where you're posting and who will read it. I use pure oud 99% of the time but I am actually interested in the blend that you mentioned, so in my mind that post belongs here.

That's very interesting, and so I'm assuming then that a mukhallat is when multiple ingredients are blended after distillation?

 

[mesOUD]

Lets make something clear guys
-Mukhallat:Blend of multiple predistilled,preextracted,premacerated ingredients
-Attar:codistillation of different ingredients
But there are differences between Blending same ingredients vs Codistillation of same ingredients
During the codistillation,there becomes chemical reactions.
Basicly if you blend ingredient A and ingredient B,result is A+B
But if you codistill ingredient A and ingredient B result is :C ,another thing,have properties of A and B,but different than A+B
This is same for oud too,blending 2 ouds is 1 thing,Codistilling 2 ouds is another thing.
And for SOROOR,i had the same dilemma,while i was adding to my web,To which category it should belong and i added it to Mukhallat category also to Oud category.
One more thing,difference between a mukhallat and Codistillation is same for maceration vs blending premacerated oils
Macerating an ingredient(can be oud,sandalwood etc) is different than blending an oud with premacerated ambergris and musk
SOROOR is a maceration,Oud said(codistillation of 2 ouds) macerated with musk amd ambergris for +1 year

 

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[Olfactory Nomad]

Thankyou for these explanations of definitions @Jame and @mesOUD. A year ago I hadn't even heard of these words before let alone been able to understand just what they mean. I love learning about this stuff.💚🙏

 

[Mr.P]

Meanings seem to be a little bit fluid. The dictionary definition of "attar" is very general.

 

[honeybadger]

Grandawood - triple happiness

I forget which region this oil is from, may be from Thailand if I recall correctly. The oil is very thick with good projection. The best I can describe this one is like smoking a caramel flavored cigar in an old antique shop.

 

[Zubayr]

Habzoud - xiangshui

Caught a cold, so wanted to wear something to lift my mood up. I'm not quite sure why I picked this one, considering I wasn't a huge fan of it, but since wearing this was the best choice surprisingly. There's something relaxing about the cool, earthy and slight nutty notes. I'm surprised by how much I'm loving this rn

 

[Mr.P]

Grandawood - triple happiness

I forget which region this oil is from, may be from Thailand if I recall correctly. The oil is very thick with good projection. The best I can describe this one is like smoking a caramel flavored cigar in an old antique shop.

That is a sinensis CO2 extract; I believe their plantation is in Vietnam. I have a small sample of this - it is quite nice for a co2 sinensis - very saturated. They list the triple happiness as being from wild wood but they don't say where the wood was collected - so the fact that they have a plantation in Vietnam may be irrelevant.

 

[Castingshadows]

Has anyone tried Virgin KS from feel Oud? Russian Adam said it was a sinking grade distillation but I haven’t seen any reviews.

 

[honeybadger]

That is a sinensis CO2 extract; I believe their plantation is in Vietnam. I have a small sample of this - it is quite nice for a co2 sinensis - very saturated. They list the triple happiness as being from wild wood but they don't say where the wood was collected - so the fact that they have a plantation in Vietnam may be irrelevant.

I Bought this oil when I was new to oud and I was mostly buying budget oils from etsy and vendors like grandawood. At the time I remember this being my most prized oil in my collection 😅 but I still like it.

 

[Mr.P]

I Bought this oil when I was new to oud and I was mostly buying budget oils from etsy and vendors like grandawood. At the time I remember this being my most prized oil in my collection 😅 but I still like it.

I recall that a little dab of that on my wrist or on my collar surrounds me with pretty amazing sweet sinensis perfume for many hours. That one I remember enjoying especially after the first 30 minutes or so passed. I'll have to apply another swipe one of these days just to remind myself

 

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[Fragdoctor]

EO Royal Kinam v2

This oil is amazing. One of the best Oriscent oils I have tried, and to me is one of the most potent examples of a kinamic oil, or at least whatever Ensar means when he says an oil is ‘kinamic’.

To me the oil is very deep in a unique way. I don’t think it’s super complex and doesn’t feel super dense or thick, but it feels wide open like I could fall into it. I feel the urge to smell it very slowly and deeply in a single breath like I am trying to reach the end of it but I never get there. As soon as I stop inhaling, I’m sent back to the beginning again. I get the sense that I could smell my way through it and come out the other side as a new man, if only I had bigger lungs. I cannot think of a better way to describe the addictive properties of this oil.

Very impressive stuff, but Hainan from Fushigi is very nearly the same oil for roughly a third of the price. I am always skeptical of people saying things like that but in this case it truly is almost the same oil. If you want to have the experience without spending so much, that is not a bad option and in my opinion Fushigi Hainan is easily worth the price at $600-$700 per gram.

By the way it has certain obvious similarities with Al Malek Al Ceeni from Al Shareef, and I also recommend that oil. It feels a lot darker, more complex, and less clean, but it still has the scent of Royal Kinam, toned down a bit. It’s almost like someone took another oil and added Royal Kinam to it.

A good oil indeed but not worth the price in my opinion.

 

[Mr.P]

EO Royal Kinam v2

This oil is amazing. One of the best Oriscent oils I have tried, and to me is one of the most potent examples of a kinamic oil, or at least whatever Ensar means when he says an oil is ‘kinamic’.

To me the oil is very deep in a unique way. I don’t think it’s super complex and doesn’t feel super dense or thick, but it feels wide open like I could fall into it. I feel the urge to smell it very slowly and deeply in a single breath like I am trying to reach the end of it but I never get there. As soon as I stop inhaling, I’m sent back to the beginning again. I get the sense that I could smell my way through it and come out the other side as a new man, if only I had bigger lungs. I cannot think of a better way to describe the addictive properties of this oil.

Very impressive stuff, but Hainan from Fushigi is very nearly the same oil for roughly a third of the price. I am always skeptical of people saying things like that but in this case it truly is almost the same oil. If you want to have the experience without spending so much, that is not a bad option and in my opinion Fushigi Hainan is easily worth the price at $600-$700 per gram.

By the way it has certain obvious similarities with Al Malek Al Ceeni from Al Shareef, and I also recommend that oil. It feels a lot darker, more complex, and less clean, but it still has the scent of Royal Kinam, toned down a bit. It’s almost like someone took another oil and added Royal Kinam to it.

Al Malek Al Ceeni (if it is the same batch that I smelled years ago) is a beautiful smooth aged sinensis - love that oil.

 

[Castingshadows]

Anyone have thoughts on Sulaym’s HM Royal Cambodi? I saw a post that said this was sold out in July but I just purchased a sample from the website. Is it the same oil? Any comparisons at all to Grand Emperor Koh Kong from Jinkoh?

 

[Mr.P]

Anyone have thoughts on Sulaym’s HM Royal Cambodi? I saw a post that said this was sold out in July but I just purchased a sample from the website. Is it the same oil? Any comparisons at all to Grand Emperor Koh Kong from Jinkoh?

I have a sample but I can't compare it to the grand emperor.

Sniffing the bottle I get notes of musk, leather, and hay, a sense of a fermented gulf style oil. Bouquet right after application is bright, "golden" somehow, fair amount of vibrance and tooth, unlike the other Pursats in my collection which are more candy like and smooth. It has a heavy woody presence that is common to many SQ oils reflecting traditional extraction methods

 

[Castingshadows]

I have a sample but I can't compare it to the grand emperor.

Sniffing the bottle I get notes of musk, leather, and hay, a sense of a fermented gulf style oil. Bouquet right after application is bright, "golden" somehow, fair amount of vibrance and tooth, unlike the other Pursats in my collection which are more candy like and smooth. It has a heavy woody presence that is common to many SQ oils reflecting traditional extraction methods

So in layman’s terms there’s some strong fermentation, barnyard aromas, dry and woody with very little sweetness?

This will be my first SQ oil so I’m excited to try it. I noticed the price wasn’t all that bad either.

 

[Mr.P]

So in layman’s terms there’s some strong fermentation, barnyard aromas, dry and woody with very little sweetness?

This will be my first SQ oil so I’m excited to try it. I noticed the price wasn’t all that bad either.

I find describing these aromas to be pretty challenging even though I don't hesitate to give it a go. I would not say it is dry and woody overall.

Seems reasonably sweet to me - just not simply sweet like some Pursat oils I have smelled. sniffing again here there is sweetness, tanginess, i get a kind of toasted note, a little nuttiness; it smells like it could be cambodi / thai / lao / burmese crassna - i've seen enough overlap in oils from these regions to not trust my ability to reliably separate them.

I'll be curious to read your impressions!