Oud of the Day

[Tauhid Shaikh]

Yuzhi Oud YZ07 (Hainan Hydrostill) - I bought a sample set from Jeff a while back, and have been slowly working my way through it. So far, his cultivated kynam incense is the star of the show for me, but this oil is a close second. Really tannic tea and white flowers yield to a great tangerine / freshly peeled orange zest that is relatively potent and seems to last forever. Not the most complex, but it works out to be about $30-$40 for the gram that I purchased - I love what he's doing to make oud super affordable.

A while back, Luca Turin mentioned that he'd been chatting with Russian Adam about the potential for more bottles of Chinese Oud, after posting a glowing review. Adam had mentioned he'd found a sustainable source of Chinese Agarwood that could make this possible. I could see YZ07 fitting effortlessly in Chinese Oud, I wonder if Yuzhi was the source Adam was talking about.

Thanks for sharing.
I have tried one from him, the one that says barn. I like the smell. What I find about these fractioned Co2 extracts is that they are more like Oud notes. Their characteristics arent like Oud oils. They have no complexity or transitions like the Hydro distilled oils. I see these befitting blending where a perfumer is trying to introduce a note.
It would be interesting to compare Yuzhi and Grandawoood, they both have some CO2 extracts.

 

[Castingshadows]

Thanks for sharing.
I have tried one from him, the one that says barn. I like the smell. What I find about these fractioned Co2 extracts is that they are more like Oud notes. Their characteristics arent like Oud oils. They have no complexity or transitions like the Hydro distilled oils. I see these befitting blending where a perfumer is trying to introduce a note.
It would be interesting to compare Yuzhi and Grandawoood, they both have some CO2 extracts.

The one he’s referring to is Hyrdodistilled! There’s two that aren’t Co2 extracts and I believe that’s YZ:1 and YZ:7

 

[Broey_J]

The one he’s referring to is Hyrdodistilled! There’s two that aren’t Co2 extracts and I believe that’s YZ:1 and YZ:7

That's right, bud! Like I said, it smells good and is a nice intro to the Hainan profile. I don't know if I'm going to re-order any of these oils in future, but I've already ordered 30g. more of the incense for myself and a couple pals.

 

[TheOudDood]

EO Pinoy Ltd

It’s a great oil no doubt, shares the same loud terpy “kynamic” opening as Royal Kinam 2.0, Kyara ketone, brunei kinam, and others. Basically it’s clear there is a formula for these oils.

you get fresh scotch tape grape terp aroma opening, then it dries down to whatever the actual wood is. This is what you can expect from any of this teir of oils based on my experience.

in terms of heavy hitting they come kinda close some of Tahas but do not match and def do not suprass, despite being significantly more expensive. We can call this the EO hype tax. But they often have more of wide body or deepness that many of Tahas lack.

 

[TheOudDood]

EO Pinoy Ltd

It’s a great oil no doubt, shares the same loud terpy “kynamic” opening as Royal Kinam 2.0, Kyara ketone, brunei kinam, and others. Basically it’s clear there is a formula for these oils.

 

[zahir]

Basically it’s clear there is a formula for these oils.

I wonder how much of the loud 'kinamic' / bitter / numbing / terpy notes are from the wood vs distillation techniques.

 

[TheOudDood]

I wonder how much of the loud 'kinamic' / bitter / numbing / terpy notes are from the wood vs distillation techniques.

110% distillation techniques in my opinion on EO top tier oils. Ensar himself said his taiwanese guy could make a basic cultivated crassna smell like green kynam. For Taha it’s probably both since his have those notes but they actually penetrate and hit your brain.

 

[Mario P.]

Bro i respect you alot but no offence stop belive all this storyes ...very soon ensar will say even his socks has kinam smell ...not wanna debate a new discussion but if is that simple and easy why he not offer this kind of oils for cheap price ? He can "steal" all AA customers then ya ?...

 

[ChristianProgrammer]

We are on the same quest. I began my journey, with Maison Anthony Marmin Attars and was fascinated at the complexity of Oud Mukhallats. (Hind, Oud Assam, Sheikh Al Faransi, Islamabad are excellent) Since, Most of Mellifluence Attars look drool worthy, it’s going to be hard to pick just a few. I’m hoping to find some Ensar Oud or other Oud Oils that are more on the Uplifting side. Any suggestions?

Ensar samples disappointed me -- lots of hype -- assuredly quality but I was seeking longevity, and an every day use oil
so although a few of the samples I ordered from Ensar were magnificent none had any silage on the skin. Oiling a garment might be OK for winter / fall but still thats not what I was going for. If I recall correctly that didn't work either.
Personally as I try various houses ( all disappointing thus far {almost} )
I am finding a mixed bag. There is a lot of hype on this forum about HALAWA from ASO so that is on order just because I'm frustrated. and I have a few similar on the way.
This great great guy "Ish" from Royal Bengali Ouds sent me a crap ton of samples but unfortunately the Trat I liked became out of stock.( I believe ) either that or I got indecisive. I really should order something serious like a 6ML from him soon but the samples although great aren't having that longevity I'm looking for. Speaking of "houses" the big very commercial Swiss Arabian does have an attar that I love and use a lot...... again I wish it has some staying power. They also have a CPO that comes off like chocolate that I have no issues paying for even if it doesn't have longevity because both of those product do project well. Its almost a daily driver for me Oudhy chocolate. I tested another house I wont name and their Trat ( kind of barnyardy with "other Notes" I wont mention as to avoid the online fight again) but when I went to order it after their teardrop sample it wasn't the same . I waited tested the 3ml over and over and just liked its main notes even though the undertone had a Bleaaeek uggg blah splattooie to it. it started to not matter I just wanted that top note. So I order a 6ml and its no where near the previous tear drop sample or the 3ml I ordered Top note NOTE NOT EVEN PRESENT . So Screw one house never to order from again And thus we move on. All while the wifie screams in the background " that crap (oud) it makes my throat close up its nasty ..." I have jokes for that but lets again just move on Happy hunting bro. If you find something Phantasmal let me know I'm still trying to decide if any actual colognes from Swiss Arabian are worth ordering without the Oud "offense" my wifie doesn't like . I've catalogued their samples the EDPs and the CPOs from their sample kits. Well at least the Mens and Unisex. Wifie didn't want to play along ( WTF? ) I narrowed it down to a handful. But they aren't a priority. My Go to Cologne is bvlgari man black. Happy hunting bro.

 

[ChristianProgrammer]

Thanks for sharing.
I have tried one from him, the one that says barn. I like the smell. What I find about these fractioned Co2 extracts is that they are more like Oud notes. Their characteristics arent like Oud oils. They have no complexity or transitions like the Hydro distilled oils. I see these befitting blending where a perfumer is trying to introduce a note.
It would be interesting to compare Yuzhi and Grandawoood, they both have some CO2 extracts.

OK So I was Hooked at "seems to last forever." So please point me to this Yuzhi Oud Jeff person that I may browse

Never mind that was the easiest google search EVER Known to mankind https://www.yuzhioud.com/

 

[Averroes]

JS Pusong Qi. Holy crap, this is gorgeous. Sinensis as perfume. I want to enter the bottle.

 

[Broey_J]

OK So I was Hooked at "seems to last forever." So please point me to this Yuzhi Oud Jeff person that I may browse

Never mind that was the easiest google search EVER Known to mankind https://www.yuzhioud.com/

Glad you were able to track him down! I purchased from him on WhatsApp - as was mentioned earlier, some of his oils are hydrodistilled, but most are CO2 fractionated. He seems to mainly serve the the perfume industry, providing low cost cultivated ouds for use in blending perfumes. I purchased 6 1g vials of oud (1 of each of his profiles) for around $180 + $80 for 1g of his cultivated kinam oil.

Kyara Zen met Jeff a while back and vouches for the quality of his product - https://www.kyarazen.com/the-future-of-oud-oils-fractionated-sinensis-co2/

 

[Broey_J]

Brahmaputra 2 by Tabeer Oud - I don't have a ton to say about this oil right now, it's so complex that I'm still taking it all in. One sniff is grapefruit dominant, another full of vetiver and sweetgrass, another still has an interesting, earthy cumin scent. Really fantastic stuff, but still unpacking it. Umair mentioned to me that it's quite young and will benefit from aging, so I may sit on it for a bit before formally reviewing.

 

[iori]

EO Pinoy Ltd

It’s a great oil no doubt, shares the same loud terpy “kynamic” opening as Royal Kinam 2.0, Kyara ketone, brunei kinam, and others. Basically it’s clear there is a formula for these oils.

you get fresh scotch tape grape terp aroma opening, then it dries down to whatever the actual wood is. This is what you can expect from any of this teir of oils based on my experience.

in terms of heavy hitting they come kinda close some of Tahas but do not match and def do not suprass, despite being significantly more expensive. We can call this the EO hype tax. But they often have more of wide body or deepness that many of Tahas lack.

personally i find ltd's/others oils hit way harder than taha oils same for the depth and some of wood used into some of them

 

[iori]

Bro i respect you alot but no offence stop belive all this storyes ...very soon ensar will say even his socks has kinam smell ...not wanna debate a new discussion but if is that simple and easy why he not offer this kind of oils for cheap price ? He can "steal" all AA customers then ya ?...

+1 reading those only good to pass time or maybe find a good piece of information in the middle 😄

 

[TheOudDood]

Bro i respect you alot but no offence stop belive all this storyes ...very soon ensar will say even his socks has kinam smell ...not wanna debate a new discussion but if is that simple and easy why he not offer this kind of oils for cheap price ? He can "steal" all AA customers then ya ?...

Haha, Im sorry if it seemed like I was saying I believed all his stories, I do not. Especially after feeling completely misled on many oils and speaking to many others who have felt the same.

 

[TheOudDood]

+1 reading those only good to pass time or maybe find a good piece of information in the middle 😄

It's great prose, often times very entertaining and inspiring.

 

[iori]

It's great prose, often times very entertaining and inspiring.

😀

 

[Averroes]

😀

He is a fabulist for sure. One wonders what’s next, a line of boxed soaps with a Royal Omani warrant?

 

[TheOudDood]

He is a fabulist for sure. One wonders what’s next, a line of boxed soaps with a Royal Omani warrant?

I partially envy and feel sorry for the people who have been dropping $600 - $1500 2-3x a month for the past 4-6 months on all of the "limited" perfume releases.